Home hub type a or type b

I am after a home hub and there are many for sale. Some are listed as type a or type b what is the difference?

From Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BT_Home_Hub
HomeHub v2.0A was manufactured by Thomson Speedtouch
HomeHub v2.0B was manufactured by Siemens' Gigaset division in Germany
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How to connect a BT Home Hub V3.0 Type B wirelessl...

On my network I have a BT Home Hub (version 3.0 Type B) as the main router. I also have an old BT Home Hub (version 1.5) lying around. The router is located in the study and I hope to set up the spare home hub as a wireless repeater in the lounge next to the study. This would allow me to give a Sony TV access to the internet via an Ethernet cable connected from the TV to the wireless repeater.(By the way the Sony Wi-Fi dongle costs £70 and the reviews on it are awful.) Any thoughts on how to do this? Some clear concise instructions would be very useful.
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imjolly wrote:
From memory you can't connect them wirelessly
That is correct, you cannot do it.
Broadband extenders would be a much better idea.
http://www.shop.bt.com/products/bt-broadband-extender-500-kit-8W3T.html
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Home Hub 3 (type A) compatibility with Xbox Live a...

Just got a new Bt Broadband activated a couple of days ago.
All set up nice, getitng a 8mb download speed which is good for our area.
2 laptops, 1 PC, and a wireless printer all set up using wifi. All good.
Even managed to get Xbox Live connected via wifi.
BUT - when updating any software or games on the XBOX, what used to take seconds is now taking hours!
I even tried my old Dlink router on the new BT Broadband, and it all works fine, but as soon as my Home Hub 3 (type A) is connected, the software updates to the xbox take an age.
All other connections seem fine.
Is it true that Home Hub 3 type 'B' is the best one for using with Xbox Live?
If anyone's had this exact same issue, and managed to solve it - please tell me how.
Thanks
Impster
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Seems to be the same.
The only thing worse (so far) is the BT customer services team. I spent over 3 hours on the phone with various people from BT yesterday. Only when I threatened to cancel the contract did anyone take me seriously.
I really wish I'd stayed with my previous broadband provider.
What I'd like to know is how to resolve this issue - preferably from someone who's had similar experience to mine. I'm not going to go through a troubleshooting process yet again. My HomeHub 3A is simply not compatible with connecting wirelessly with any significant speed to my xbox, nor to my android mobile phone.
I have run every possible check on our line and home network.
The only variable that causes this problem to re-emerge is the Home Hub 3 (type A) which I was sent 2 days ago.

NAT TYPE 3 on PS3 using BT HOME HUB

Recently I have noticed that my NAT Type has changed from OPEN to STRICT on my PS3. This is causing problems when connecting to online games. Quite often I will not be able to connect to game, friends will not be able to connect to me if I am host and also I get signed off the PSN network randomly. This has only started happening recently.
I have read about this on other threads and it appears to be a problem with the BT HOME HUB. I have the older white version (not sure what model type).
Can anyone advise if BT intend to address this common problem with connecting to online games through a BT Home Hub?
It would appear that obtaining NAT Type 2 from NAT Type 3 can be quite a tricky process. Again I would be grateful if anyone has any advice on how to do this and whether ti is worth trying.
If this issue is not resolved soon I may have to consider if I will renew my contract with BT as it would appear it is a recent upgrade to the BT Home Hub that has caused the problem.
I did not have any major connection issues until recently.
Thanks in advance for any advice.

try this mate,it was for my old bt205 but when i got my first hub i had to use these settings also.oh and another 1 to look for is in your hub settings 192.168.1.254 then go in to advanced settings and look at your network ( have your xbox on ) your hub should list the things connected to it,now pick the xboxlive from the dropdown box and pair it up this should always give you open nat,if it goes strict again unplug router/hub power line for 2 mins then reboot and reboot your 360.
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BT Infinity Home Hub 2 Type B(i)

Hi,
I just moved from a BT Infinity area to a standard ADSL brandband area.
BT asked me to re-use my BT Infinity Home Hub 2 Type B(i), but I just can't get it to connect to broadband.
I plugged RJ11 cable from the purple landline socket to the ADSL socket on the filter, but all I get is power and WIFI lights.
I suspect BT Infinity Home Hub 2 Type B(i) is not compatible with ADSL broadband, but BT service call centre insists it can.
Does anyone on here had experience similar? or know technical specs of a BT Infinity Home Hub 2 Type B(i)?
Thank you.

have you tried a factory reset of the hub - hold the recessed button on back until lights flash
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Flush Home Hub 3 Type B

Hi there,
Can anyone tell me how to flush a Home Hub 3 Type B so that it updates the information in the device list especially the device names? It's just I have been updating the device names on our home network and want this information to be updated in the list so that device names match. Your help would be much appreciated.
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MikeF00 wrote:
Hi. I've noticed my bt setup hub 3 type B( Modem + open reach box) cuts out after about 30minutes watching tv on demand and about 5 minutes when I watch something from my mac book air via AirPlay. Can a new modem fix this? Also can I replace both boxes with one, or do I have to keep the bt open reach box?
Thanks for any advice
What makes you think it is the modem that is causing this problem?
If it is the modem cutting out this could be because it is overheating. Make sure that it is either wall mounted or that it is placed in such a way that air can circulate and that nothing is sitting on it.
How do you know it is not the Homehub that is dropping the connection. How are you connecting to the router, is it by wireless or ethernet?

Question About Type A and Type B Home Hubs

Hi there,
Can anyone simply tell me the differences between Type A and Type B Home Hubs, I cannot find this information anywhere on the BT site. Your help would be much appreciated.
Kind regards,
Paul

Hi john46,
Thanks for clarifying this information with me, would you say going for a Type B Home Hub is wiser than going for a Type A Home Hub? It's just we have seemed to have been issued with mainly Type Bs than Type As when upgrading the Home Hub as part of our broadband packages, this was from the Home Hub 2 where we had 2 when swapping from ADSL to Infinity to the Home Hub 3, we have so far never had a Home Hub 4 where there are 4 versions, 2 for ADSL and 2 for Infinity, this is also true for the Home Hub 2 as well as the Home Hub 3 plus we've never had a Home Hub 5 which I know there are 2 versions nor a Home Hub 1 where there was only 1 type of Home Hub 1 and Home Hub 1.5.
Kind regards,
Paul

Home Hub Type A Or B

hi all can somebody tell me the differance between the home hub type a and b,i currently have the type a ,and im thinking of getting a type b,because ive heard there much better for online gaming,can someone tell me if this is the case

Hi there,
The type A hubs (of which there were two types with different internals) have something of a reputation for being pretty poor for gaming. The type B hubs have a differnet circuit board to the A types and the firmware is also different.
Not being an avid gamer myself I can't offer first hand advice, but there have been noticeably fewer complaints on the forum since it was introduced.
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Home Hub Type A new firmware

I note the following message posted by Admin:
Home Hub 3A firmware version 4.7.5.1.83.8.94.1.11 is being rolled out gradually, we started last week. This firmware includes bug fixes for the following issues that have been raised on the forum over the last few months (and longer):
Bug fixes for loopback functionality
Fix for dual boot Windows and Linux Ubuntu machines where previously it wasn't possible to obtain an Internet connection if you switched to Linux OS
Optimisation of Smart Wireless
You'll most likely receive the update before the end of January but we're taking our time with the rollout so it goes smoothly, fibre hubs will be first followed by adsl. We'll come back and update you if it's going to take longer to get everyone's 3A updated.
Whilst any improvements to functionality are welcome, I note that there is no mention of a) correction of the 'time bug', which of course has temporarily gone away since the clocks went went back in October; or b) any corrective action in relation to the mystery of the internittent slow speeds through the Type A's LAN ports i.e. wired speed dropping below 10mbps requiring a hub reset to restore. Any information in respect of these two bugs would be welcome especially the LAN speed issue which appears may be a hardware fault requiring a change to a type B hub!

this post by Stephanie confirms that 10mb problem will be fixed in update - although not mentioned in Stephanie's upgrade post
http://community.bt.com/t5/Other-BB-Queries/HomeHub-3-LAN-speeds-only-10Mb/m-p/691362#M35575
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5S Home Button is "Press" Type of "Touch" Type

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Thanks Nathan, that's what I thought. I am just afraid that this sill home button on 5S will also become not responding 7 out of 10 times after just 2yrs, and that's frustrating even I know there is the on screen virtual home button I can use but just distracting with a circle dot on the screen all the time, and you have to constantly move it around when you are surfing.

Lack of loopback on Home Hub 3 is making me consid...

The lack of loopback on Home Hub 3 is making me considering quitting BT Infinity. Why? Because as a software developer this is a giant paint in the **bleep**!
Every application I develop from home has to use local IP addresses, which means it keeps adding development time to my projects as I cannot use hostnames and have to keep writing go-arounds. It's a giant PITA!
I mean, sure, if you didn't support some wacky new technology that only 1% of people used then that'd be understandable but BT Infinity is FAST internet and people who pay £40 a month for FAST internet usually aren't the clueless old people you think they are!
I don't even like BT I think you lot are a bunch of crooks, but I don't live in a cabled area in my new house so I'm stuck with you. Considering moving to a friends FTTC service even if I do have to pay £20 extra a month.
So BT, pull your finger out of your god **bleep** **bleep**, hire some decent developers and fix your **bleep** because I and thousands of other customers are wound up by this. You're doing nothing to inspire loyalty. Nothing.

Welcome to this forum. This is a BT domestic customer to customer help forum, any messages posted here do not go to BT.
Its possible one of the forum members may be able to help you if its a general enquiry.
You do have the alternative of using your own router, there are plenty of cheap cable routers available.
If you only have one PC connected, then you can connect it directly to the modem, by setting up a PPPoE network connection type.
There are some useful help pages here, for BT Broadband customers only, on my personal website.
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Issues with Home Hub 3 Wireless. And lousy teleph...

I don't know if this forum is moderated or followed by BT support staff, but I sure hope so.
After coming from Virgn Media for my BB to BT infinity (Awesome speeds btw!) I'm pleased with the connection and, up until today, the support. I now have issues with my Wireless devices on the HH3.
This is the outline of my setup:
I have the Open reach modem connected to the home hub. I then have the 1Gbps ethernet port from the home hub that is connected to a 1Gbps 5 Port switch that connects my wired network together (Consisting of my Xbox, Networked Printer and my Desktop PC). Wireless serves 2 Laptops, an Xperia U phone, and a G5 Ipod touch (not all mine, I have a flat mate).
My issue is that when more than one device connects via WiFi, the WiFi network has serious issues: The connections don't drop per se, but websites are not delivered, data transfer is intermittant at best - i.e. the WiFi network simply does not work. When there is only one device, there is no issue.
Now, being a techie (I don't mean to title drop, but I think it's important that technical support know that I know my stuff) I'm an electrical engineer (The graduate type) and I know my IT - so I have my own idea of what's wrong with this.
Now, as my order was not completed until yesterday, techincal support couldn't/wouldn't help until today. Yesterday, however, I spent hours trying to solve my issues and got as far semi-solving the problem. I managed to get everything working nicely together when Wireless N is disabled and only a/b/g is enabled. Great, but a main selling point is the Wireless N and I want to use this.
So, today I phoned technical support. I should also note here, and I made this perfectly clear with support, that when the WiFi starts to missbehave, the wired network still works perfectly and I have no issues with internet connectivity with any wired devices. So, clearly this is not a line fault - it's on this side, aka, the router WiFi side where the problem resides. Support decided to do a line test anyway - and of course it got the all clear. He then asked me to reset the router (Yey, again after I had done it plenty of times before, only this time I had customised the SSID and the LAN IP addresses and now they need done again). He then went on to state that I should receive an e-mail with instructions on what to do next, and if they are still issues to reply to a text message that will be sent.
Duly, an email arrived. It began with "Sorry you had to call us today about your wireless disconnecting. We’re pleased we could help you get it working again." and continued on with with this theme. No, my problem is not resolved! I phoned back, this time advising me to change channels, and check individual devices to see if they're any conflicts - I did this pretty quickly and disabled and re-enabled WiFi on my Laptop, phone, ipod and still to no avail.
I have now been told that I will get a phone call between 3 and 3:30pm to see if the WiFi will settle down. huh!
I don't mean to be such a pain and sound like such a git, but this is not an issue that I believe the technical support (via the call centre anyway) will be able to solve. This is an issue with the HH3, mine at least, not being able to handle mutiple WiFi devices conntected simualtaneously - all but one on N, the other on G. Now, I'm of the understanding that this shouldn't be a problem. I'm sick of telephone support going through their script without listening to the whole issue either or beleiving that I spent a good 2 hours yesterday getting to the bottom of this. I don't need line tests, I don't need resetting the router, I don't need changing channels - I've did all this!
So it looks as though I'm stuck on HH3 in 'G' for now until we solve this issue.
Further information: I'm using the type A HH3; again wired devices are not impacted in any way from this issue; I have tried multiple different channels; YES! I've reset the router and power cycled it; And this issue happens wether my WiFi devices are 1 meter away from the HH3 or 15 meters away.
Could this be a bad HH3 or frimware issue? Can someone suggest something or highlight something that I've perhaps overlooked or missed?

This is only a customer to custome help forum.
This link may help, although some of the things you may have already tried.
Wireless can prove quite unreliable, and an separate wireless access point can help.
Wireless connection problems
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How to use Home Hub 3 as a 2nd router(access point...

Hi guys hope you can help; I am trying to add my Home Hub 3 as a 2nd router (ie an access point) to my home network and struggling.
What am I trying to achieve.
I have a fully functioning home network which is working great but the wireless range does not extend to the room above my garage, some distance away from the main house. I currently service it with an Ethernet link from my E4200 router, via the mains wiring, to link to a PS3 there. But I want to extend this to have a wireless network in the remote room so I can link multiple devices - rather than spend more money, deploying a 2nd router which I already have is preferable.
What have I got.
I have a Linksys E4200 router (nice piece of kit) attached to my ADSL line via a Belkin N1 wireless modem-router set to “modem only” mode (I was using a DSL modem until yesterday but that went AWOL and digging out the Belkin router I saw that it had a modem only function – and it/they worked first time )
All of my gear in the house is attached wirelessly to the E4200 which is delivering circa 11.5mbps from a maximum of 12.5mbps for the line measured by BT onsite. So all is fine there.
What have I done to try and use the HH3
Linked an Ethernet cable between one of the Ethernet ports on the E4200 to a mains plug.
Linked an Ethernet cable from a mains plug to one of the Ethernet ports on the HH3 router.
Ie as the PS3 was linked.
3. Switched on the HH3 router: the power light is solid blue, the wireless light is solid blue, the broadband light is off
4. Connected my laptop to the HH3 network and loading up a web page on IE9 displays a web page from bthomehub.home/etc etc with title BT Home Hub and a message “Can’t connect to Broadband”. It is the start of a self- diagnostic routine. Answering all the questions I eventually get a Home Hub Administrative Home Page displayed.
Is there a quicker way of getting to this admin page??
5. I switched off DHCP
I changed the IP address from 192.168.1.254 to 192.168.1.200 as this seems to be what the other threads on this subject did.
When I went to apply the change a message came up telling me that I might not be able to access the HH3. I ploughed on disregarding this and needless to say I could not then access the HH3 via the web interface and trying to access a web site nothing happened.
6. I did a hardware reset on the HH3
7. Going through the motions again, when I got to the admin pages again, I switched off DHCP and this time left the IP address alone, ie 192.168.1.254.
When I went to apply this I got the message
“After changing these settings you will need to renew the IP address of all devices connecting to your BT Home Hub. Please follow the instructions provided with your devices.”
I applied the change – but have not yet done any fooling around with IP addresses on my laptop because I don’t want to start mucking around with my laptop
I then tried to access a website, and failed, but on this occasion rather than nothing happening, the Home Hub website came up again displaying the error message page.
And that is where I stand. All looks so easy when reading other threads on this and other forums but it is not working for me.
Any help greatly appreciated.
The IP settings on the E4200 are
IP 192.168.1.1
Range 192.168.1.100 to 192.168.1.149
Also connection type on the E4200 is POE not POA – as far as I recall that is what it needed to be to connect to the DSL modem and work.

Thanks for the speedy reply!
I have actually came across this page before - I seem to hit a snag when I connect the repeater hub (my HH3). As outlined, I have at all times kept the repeater hub connected via ehternet into one of the regular LAN ports to my main HH5.
But when I connect my laptop to the repeat hub (HH3), I am actually connected to the internet somehow (I assuem using the HH5 network) but under my network connections it says I am connected to the HH3. As a result, when I go to the homehub settings page 192.168.1.254, it brings me to the main HH5 settings page and not the repeater HH3.
According to the instructions it says I should "Ignore the not connected page", but I am connected and I cant seem to alter any of the settings on my HH3 while it is connected to the HH5.
Any other pointers?
Thanks!

Wireless Connection Problems for Home Hub 3 and Vi...

We have upgraded from BT Home Hub 2 to version 3 and had a BT man (engineer) visit to set it up. He did so with no problems on our PC (wired, runnning XP) and installed all relevant software on the PC and this is connected which so far has been fast (enough - as expected) and reliable. Once the 'main' computer in the house was connected we then tried to connect other things to the internet using this BT Hub 3.
However when attempting to connect our family laptop (running Vista) we hit trouble. Initially I tried to use the icon in the tray (bottom right of the screen) by clicking on connect to a network, then selecting our hub, then inputting the wireless key and going through the menus correctly. It would only connect 'locally' and not recognise the hub. It says identifying then says unidentified (public network BT Hub 3) and only 'local' access which I then change to private network. With my preivious internet I was able to set it up as Home network - now I can only choose between public or private BUT NOT Home, Work or Public.
So I then tried the BT disc that comes with the hub into the laptop. I go through the menus - it asks is the broadband light steady blue? Yes. Click next to continue wireless set up. So I press continue. It then asks for the wireless network/SSID BTHub3- numbers and letters and the wireless key. So I put that in correctly (double checking) and click next. It then says Connecting to your Hub which then gets ticked but then the checking wireless key doesn't tick - it crosses, and says failed. It asks me to check I typed the numbers and letters correctly (I am sure of that) and It goes to Manuel set up. Where I select my hub and again type in the wireless key and click next. But the same thing happens - connecting to your hub gets ticked but checking wireless key fails.
I then get a message that says i should do a wired set up, which I can do and works but on the laptop wired solutions is just not satisfactory - laptops need wireless connectivity. Is this a problem with my laptop, Vista or the hub/modem or a combination.
I also have been able to connect other things to the internet such as a netbook (running Windows 7) and a games console. Please comment if anthing needs explaining or more detail. Your help will be much appreciated. Thank you in advance.
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John46: I uninstalled the Hub programmes you said to. I then tried to connect to a network (wirelessly - accessed either by going to Start - Connect to or from the icon in the tray (bottom right). I selected my hub and clicked connect. It does its thing and says 'successfully connected to...' I close that and go onto Network and Sharing Center and it shows its trying to identify the network and wait a few seconds it then shows 'unidentified network (public network)...' and that I have only got local access and so cannot surf the web.
As I mentioned in my earlier post:
With my previous Internet I was able to set it up as Home network - now I can only choose between public or private BUT not got the choice between Home, Work or Public.
Hope I've explained myself.

How to set up time capsule with BT home hub 4.0 & Openreach

Idiots guide needed.
My TimeCapsule (year old model) had been running well from my BT Openreach box (without using the Home Hub 4.0) but recently had issues with connection dropping - BT said they've sorted out their end and can't see any remaining issues and can't offer me any more support if I'm not using the Home Hub 4.0
I reset the TC to run straight from the Openreach Box still have issues with wi-fi dropping in and out (both on ethernet and wi-fi).
Can I:....
1) set up Time Capsule running from BT Home Hub 4.0 which itself runs from BT Openreach white box (thus continuing to get support from BT)
or should i go back to
2) Time Capsule running straight from BT Openreach Box
Can some one post an idiots guide to either option?
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The easiest and sure way is to use bridge on the TC as the method of connection. The TC then becomes a device in your network and gets its IP from the main router that I presume BT supply.
Method is,
1. Plug the TC WAN port into the BT supplied modem by ethernet.
2. Plug the computer you are using for the setup into the TC by ethernet.
3. Run the airport utility .. go to internet tab on the top menu..
In the bottom option, Connection Sharing choose off (bridged mode)
4. Go to the wireless page and setup wireless connection as you like it.. using whichever band you want. And make sure security is set to the highest setting, wpa2 personal. Put in a decent wireless passkey.
5. Press the update and fix whatever else the TC will show as needing fixing.. usually security stuff.
6. You can then disconnect the ethernet and connect by wireless if you want. Any port on the TC will now be a LAN port, including WAN.
This is assuming BT supply a wireless router with built in vdsl/other type of modem. If so you normally will not be able to bridge the modem, unless BT are using pppoe authentication which they haven't in the past.
If you really need to use the TC as a router then you will need to work out an alternative method. You can double NAT by placing the TC in the DMZ of the BT router if that is an option. It is not without issues in general.

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