Homogeneous System Copy for 4.5B/DB6/W2K ?

I'm looking for the documentation on doing a homogeneous system copy for an R/3 4.5B System for a client. They are running DB6 on Windows 2000. I've searched Service Marketplace and can only find doc's back as far as 4.6C. I can't find the one for 4.5B.
The client is looking to migrate the current system to new hardware and then subsequently upgrade to ECC 6.00, but that part is off a piece. The first part is to migrate the system to the new hardware in order to solve some space and performance issues.
If anyone can point me to the docs, or has a copy on their local machines they can send me, then please let me know.
Thanks.

I suggest you open an OSS call under BC-INS and ask for the guide there.
Since 4.5B is out of maintenance and you/your customer has (hopefully) an extended maintenance contract for that version they will give you that guide.
If you do NOT have them, you might be pretty lost in case of a problem, if you have the guide or not...
Markus

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first my question GGG
-> by which means do you plan to copy? brbackup/brrestore? r3copy? r3load?
ad 1.
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ad 2.
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[step-by-step procedure for System Refresh.|http://it.toolbox.com/wiki/index.php/Homogeneous_System_Copy_Oracle_/_4.6c_/_Windows_Server_2003]
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Hi,
step 9 is wrong ;-(((
old:
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