Horrible, irresponsible default setting for Thunderbird re: deleting mail from POP server

Yesterday I downloaded and booted an ISO of Linux Mint 16 because I was curious about the current state of Linux and whether it would make sense to finally switch from Windows. The OS booted and ran without any major issues and seemed generally well-polished.
Then I ran Thunderbird and did a quick setup of my POP3 e-mail account (provided by GoDaddy) using the default configuration, which I assumed would be appropriately configured for someone who wanted to give Thunderbird a test-run. I waited a few minutes while Thunderbird downloaded all the e-mail messages from GoDaddy's server and then I spent some time poking around with the program. Seemed fine.
Unfortunately, I did not realize until after rebooting my system into Windows that Thunderbird was configured by default to delete all my e-mail messages from the server upon download, and I was shocked to find that I could no longer access my old messages via my Android phone. That's several months worth of important e-mails that Thunderbird unceremoniously wiped from my mail server without so much as a warning.
This is a horribly irresponsible way to configure Thunderbird's default settings and I'm sure I'm not the only person who has gotten burned in this manner. Needless to say it has soured me not just on Thunderbird but on Linux in general as a desktop OS. As an attorney I frequently need to review previously-read e-mail messages in my account and your mail client's default settings have caused me a major inconvenience. I strongly suggest that you alter Thunderbird's default configuration to leave downloaded messages on the server in order to avoid upsetting users in the future.

Thank you for your suggestions, but I had booted Mint directly from the DVD and had not installed it. I was simply testing it out. Thunderbird was remarkably easy to configure - I just gave it my e-mail address, name, and password and it figured out the rest. But nowhere did it indicate that it would remove downloaded messages from my mail server by default, hence my shock and dismay.
I sincerely hope that somebody within Mozilla will acknowledge that this is a problem and change the default settings.

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Can somebody kindly correct or confirm my understanding about deleting mail from iPhone.
I use a .com POP account and use Eudora on my Mac.
When I trash & delete an email from iPhone, this will not delete the mail from the POP account -- correct?
Also, if I used Apple Mail instead of Eudora, would syncing cause Mail app to delete from POP the messages that are trashed & deleted from the iPhone?
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Wjosten,
Thanks for your continued responses.
How old is the info you got regarding Earthlink settings? I went through both my account settings, and my Webmail settings, and could not find the exact settings below. In fact, this seems to be more of a setting when you set up a desktop mail client (e.g. Part of Outlook setup). See here for an example: http://support.earthlink.net/articles/email/setting-up-outlook-2007-to-send-and- receive-email.php (it is on the last screenshot)
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Message was edited by: jhoche1

Hi there jhoche1,
It sounds like you are looking for the "Remove copy from server after retrieving a message" setting. This setting can be found at Mail > Preferences... > Accounts > Advanced. Take a look at the articles below for more information.
Mail (Mavericks): Advanced accounts preferences
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hi,
is there an option in mail that would enable me to delete messages from my server when i delete them from my mail client but keeps the messages i did not delete on my server?
i know there is an option to delete messages after they've been downloaded, but that's not what i want.
thanks!
carys

Hi,
I would like for this very thing to happen ...moving mail from my inbox deletes it from the server. However, I've checked that option in the prefs, but it doesn't work.
I can delete mail [from server] when retrieving it "right away", and I can "remove now", but the "when moved from inbox" options does nothing.
Any suggestions on how to get this to work?
PS: I've heard about the cool features of Mail 2.0, but keep in mind that I'm using Panther (w/Mail 1.3.11)
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i have an ATT / Yahoo e mail acct. and never had this problem before.
As i have a phone and a home computer, i have always had the phone leave the mail on the server and that way I could also get it on my home computer. Now the phone deletes the mail off the server os I can't get it at home.
I have checked my phone settings but nothing helps.
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Unless you had it set up as a POP account before with a specific setting not to delete messages from the server after download, I'm not sure why it would have behaved differently. This is the way it's always worked for me. It's basically an IMAP account with support for push notification. Nearly indistinguishable from an Exchange account. It synchronizes fully with the server. Deletions will be reflected on all devices using IMAP to access the host inbox.

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I have two Andoid phones:
1. My Personal Samsung Galaxy Note/AT&T
2. My Employers Motorola Droid RAZR/Verizon
They are both running Android 4.0.4. I have set up pop mail on both. My personal ISP is X/O and a pop3 account. I typically have it deliver mail to Outlook at my home and turn off Outlook to read mail when away. The first phone correctly reconciles the delete of the mails delivered to Outlook and no longer on the server. The Verizon Droid does not delete the mail from the phone when it is gone from the server. I deleted and readded the pop account and experience the same behavior. How do I get the phone to delete the mail that has been removed from the server?
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No way to remove deleted messages from POP server?

I've checked around, and this seems to be like a MAJOR shortcoming of Mail.
I have Mail set to leave mail on the server for one day. This way, if I boot on my Windows partition or check webmail, my recent messages are still there.
I primarily use my Mac for checking mail. I have many rules to sort my incoming (good) mail based on clients. I also get a lot of spam and unwanted mail, which mostly winds up in my junk email folder. So I delete it immediately.
My problem is that when I check the mail from other sources, such as webmail, I have to deal with the SAME junk messages all over again.
When I used to use Entourage and other clients, there was a preference to remove messages from server when they are trashed on the local mac. Mail does not seem to have this handy feature.
There is an option to delete mail moved from the inbox, but due to my sorting rules most of my good mail is removed from the inbox (and into client-specific folders). Also, some mail is move into junk incorrectly, and therefore moved back to my inbox by me. So this option will not work for me.
This is making it hard to use mail as part of a multi-machine/platform workflow. I like it otherwise, but it seems pretty lacking in this respect, and I am disappointed with it.
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What you're asking for isn't possible, not even with Entourage. You already set Mail to keep your messages for one day on the server after you retrieve them. But then you say you want it to delete them when you trash them on your Mac. Unless you are connected to your webmail server, how would you expect the server to magically discover that you've trashed something? Not even Entourage can do that; you had to have been connected to a mail server at all times in order for Entourage or any other mail client to do what you claim.
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Mulder

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I usually remove all spam from the mail server as soon as it comes in to avoid it arriving in all our office mailboxes.
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