Hotmail Plus' SMTP Server, anyone got it to work?

HI All,
Well, my gf just got a new macbook after I finally converted her to a mac, but now I am trying to set up her Hotmail plus account in Mac Mail. (because entourage is too slow)
Since microsoft is now offering a pop3/smtp service for their plus members, I decided to upgrade her account and pay the 20 bux.
so far so good.
Obviously, when I try to set up her hotmail account in outlook on windows, or in entourage in mac, it works perfectly.
Only thing is, I want to use it in mac mail.
so I got the necessary info from microsoft (after 20 emails back and forth, and them pretending not to understand my question...)
POP: pop3.live.com (port 995)
SMTP: smtp.live.com (port 25)
Note: make sure you check the box that indicates that your outgoing server requires authentication (in most mail clients this is not checked by default).
Username: your full email address
Password: your Windows Live ID password
After setting up in mac mail with this info, I can now receive emails perfectly.
The only problem is that I cannot send any.
the smtp server seems dead, or non existent.
So my question is, is there anyone out there who got this to work? in mac mail or any other pop3 program?
I think its not a port problem, as I send my own mail on my own smtp server on the same router using port 25 as well.
Lastly, I would like to clarify that I do understand that hotmail *****, but moving to gmail or anything like that is not an option for her, its too big a hassle atm, so please do not respond if that was going to be your response
Ok, I really hope someone out there made this work.
Cheers, and thanks for any help/suggestions in advance.

I have exactly he same problem. Trust me, I know how you feel about switching. When I saw the green star I thought I finally stumbled across the answer. Don't know why you marked the question answered. I have tried all the different ports, none of which worked. I'm so looking forward to solving this one.

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