How (and why) would one backup both to iCloud and computer?

First iPhone 4s; I use Windows 7 computer. While it is very convenient to have phone automatically backup to iCloud - given my early experiences with Apple and the sync of iPhone via iTunes hanging on the last step and never completing and I had to restore phone to factory settings - I am reluctant to trust backup only to iCloud. iCloud backup would come in very handy a) when traveling and perhaps not having the external drives I use for backups; and especially b) in case disaster hits iPhone and I need to restore.
Backup to computer is under my control, and it is easier to make multiple copies and store as much history of backups as I choose. In addition, I believe that iCloud does not backup everything. In additon to it NOT backing up music unless it was purchased from iStore, what else does it NOT back up?
So for the above reasons I am planning on automatically backing up to iCloud, AND backing up to computer weekly as well as prior to any software update, or other major thing I might do to phone. I'd rather have too many backups as insurance than not enough. It seems that it is less convenient to backup to computer, unless there is something I am missing. It seems that the steps are:
1) Open iTunes; connect iPhone via USB.
2) When it is recognized, on Summary tab move check mark from backup to iCloud to backup to Computer; click apply.
3) Eject iPhone; unplug USB.
4) Close and restart iTunes; connect iPhone via USB
5) Now iTunes will create backup file.
6) In my case I make copy of this backup file from C:\Users\Name\AppData\Roaming\Apple Computer\MobileSync\Backup to where I want to keep history.
7) In iPhone now must turn back on backup to iCloud
Is there an easier way (set of steps) to backup automatically to iCloud, AND also make manual backup to computer?
Can I "force" iTunes to store computer backups to a different location than is shown in step 6?
Does iTunes automatically delete/over write earlier backups to computer? How much history does it keep? Am I correct that if I rename the backup file by pre-pending it with say "iPhone_" that iTunes would never delete/overwrite it?
Are there other reasons for taking the time to backup to both iCloud and to computer?
Thanks for cutting my learning curve on the important though often neglected issue of backup protection.

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4620
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3819
The above links are for Home Sharing. That should do what you want.
HTH

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