How do i backup referenced masters on EHD

Hello. If all my Masters are held in an EHD, how do I back them up? (They are all held offline as I ran out of space in Aperture Library) Vault doesn't back up Referenced masters.... do I connect one EHD to the Vault EHD and miss out Aperture? Sorry if this is a dumb question.

You back up the referenced masters on the external drive as you would any other files. As referenced masters they are not in any way connected to Aperture with regards to backing them up.
There are many ways to handle the situation. Time Machine, cloning the drive with the images onto another drive, etc. Again don't think of them as Aperture master files they are just files that need to be backed-up.

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The Best Method To Backup Referenced Masters?

I cannot find in Aperture help any mention of backing up the referenced masters which seems odd that Apple would consider backing up managed photos on the internal Aperture Library while not considering the very common (and supported by Apple) method of working with referenced masters on external hard drives.
This is what I am doing: I am using super duper to clone the HDD with the referenced masters to another external drive. If the HDD with the referenced masters dies I just hope that I can somehow reconnect the masters on the other HDD.
Is there a better way to back up those referenced masters? Perhaps a method I am not aware of from within Aperture to make it easy to use or reconnect the back up images?
Aperture 3, MacBook Pro running Snow Leopard

It makes me wonder. Since Aperture places the backups and therefore "knows" the location, does it in the event of losing the originals, have a dialog box or other means for "finding" and reconnecting to the file backups?
afaik, no. Kirby, do you know differently?
But there is of cause the "File > locate referenced files" window, that will allow you to reconnect the versions with their masters. But you will have to point Aperture to the location of the masters.
I am a fanatic with keeping at least two but preferrably 3 copies of everything in at least two different formats.
and preferably in two different places, see Kirby Krieger's post - "offsite location".
And if you are very concerned about the safety of your images, you will create the first backup of your masters directly from the card - before the images enter any image editing software.

Dying RAID holding all my referenced masters--how do I switch to my backup?

My five-drive, 10 TB primary RAID is flaking out; Disk Warrior reports a drive malfunction. It holds all of my referenced masters.
Fortunately, I have an identical backup RAID array (with a different volume name).
Can anyone tell me exactly how to "re-point" my Library to this backup RAID? The masters for about 500,000 of the 600,000 images in my Library are located on the failing RAID. The Library must now reference the backup masters on the backup RAID.
Thanks in advance
Gordon

Wes--this was basically RW Boyer's instructions. Where it gets fuzzy for me is Step 4.
After I rename the good RAID to the bad RAID name, I assume that I open Aperture.
Then what?
All of my Aperture files that are referenced to the bad raid are contained in two folders in Aperture: 2009 Images, and 2010 Images. Inside each of these folders are all of my projects for each year.
So do I highlight the 2009 Images folder, and then go to file, locate referenced file"? and then what? Or can I simply highlight the entire Library, and go to "file, locate referenced file", and let Aperture figure out which images are referenced on the new drive? There are several hundred thousand images in the 2009 and 2010 Images folders, and I need a quick way to reconnect to them all. As you can appreciate, I'm a bit reluctant to experiment.
Thanks

Referenced masters: How can you tell where a photo's master is?

After reading many recommendations on this site, I have set up my main library on my internal HD with referenced masters on an external HD.
Now I need to import a job which I shot out of state and which was saved as a managed library on my MBP. So I copied it to an external drive and then Imported it into the main A3 library. That worked just fine but it seems like it copied all the masters as well as the versions from that new library into the main one.
Before I try to relocated them, how can I tell where the master for a particular photo is located?
Thank you very much.
Bo

Versions are always in the Library (they are text instructions saved to a file and applied on-the-fly to the Master in order to produce the image on screen (mostly)). Masters are either in the Library (in which case they are "Managed"), or not in the Library (in which case they are "Referenced"). The Library is a "package". A package is a container of files which shows as a single file to the user.
Badges tell you the status of the Master on which the Version is based. No badge = Managed. Referenced Masters show a badge. Off-line Referenced Masters show a modification of this badge. Versions with Missing Masters show yet another version of this badge.
Badges can be toggled to show or not via the Metadata Overlays. All seven of the Metadata Overlays can be customized.
Use the filter Rule "File Status" to filter for "Managed", "Referenced", "On-line", "Off-line", and "Missing".
If you want to move all Manage Masters to your external drive, in Photos view filter using the "File Status" Rule set to "Managed", then select all and "File→Relocate Master".

Regarding Backup of Referenced Masters: What Software do you use?

Hi, I have a portion of my library stored on an external drive via referenced masters. I back up these image files to another external drive. Currently I do this manually - I just copy the folders using the Finder. But I'm interesting in a program that can automatically backup these files incrementally and keep the backup up to date. What does everybody here use? Lacie Silverkeeping? Thanks.

GraemeSmith wrote:
The referenced masters are stored on an external drive, not the internal drive (which is backed up with Time Machine). Is it even possible to use Time Machine on an external drive?
Sure. Time Machine can backup whichever hard drives are plugged in to the machine on which Time Machine is running. This is to be distinguished from drives attached to the network, via Airport Extreme, for example. Time Machine won't get those.
Also the backup drive I want to use for the referenced masters is different that the Time Machine drive.
Gotcha. That obviously rules out Time Machine.

Vault + Time Machine w/ Referenced Masters

I know this general question has been asked several times, but I can't find a solution that matches my specific setup. I'm running Aperture off my MBP, so I have set up one external drive to hold my referenced masters. My internal drive has my aperture library with previews, etc. I also have one other external drive that is my dedicated Time Machine backup drive. How should I approach backing up? If I have Time Machine backup the aperture library and referenced masters, is there any advantage of adding a vault as well? Thanks for any help!

Gerry,
This ain't hard, just a bit complex.
To answer you first question: At this point, a Vault is of little value; Time Machine does everything you need and does it automagically. (Unless you leave Aperture running all of the time.) Time Machine is much better if you use referenced masters as the Vault does not back them up.
Time Machine is great as it creates images of your disk every hour - wonderful if you delete something by accident. People worry about filling their Time Machine disk. Don't. As long as your disk is large enough for one full back up the extra space only gets you time - that is you can go further back. For most of us, one month is all the history we will ever need. And when your disk fills, Time Machine diligently deletes the oldest data to assure that you always have a current backup. Nice.
A clone, on the other hand, is just that, an exact (usually bootable) copy of your disk. Normally, when you update a clone it adds what you have added but it also deletes what you have deleted. Delete something by mistake two days ago and last night's backup will delete it as well. On the other hand, have your Mac die (as mine did, 3,000 miles from the nearest Apple Store) and you can plug your clone into any other Mac and you are good to go. Slick.
Finally, off site is just that. What happens if your house burns or is robbed? You could lose your mac and all of your backups as well. There are many ways to do off site, from a hard disk that you sneaker net to your neighbor to a commercial service like Crashplan or Carbonite.
Hope this helps.

Importing old pictures with wrong date stamp. After adjusting date they are landing in the correct folder of referenced masters.

I was thrilled to learn that with Aperture I could have one big library and using referenced masters, I can organize the pictures by date so I know where everything is and can backup to the cloud. I started importing really old photos that were taken with god knows what camera and the date is wrong. Since I had all these in date structured folders I could make a best guess on the date - not needing it to be exact, just so it shows up close enough in projects and the original lands in the right folder for future use & backup. I have come to learn that changing the metadata is only referring to how Aperture sees it. In other words, images that were taken on 10/31/04 are still landing in the referenced masters folder on the date the camera said. I now understand that the metadata date is not the date Aperture needs fixed. Is the best way to fix this to delete the images from Aperture, find some tool that will adjust to the approximate real date, then reimport. If so, can someone recommend a utility that does this? If I can fix this inside of Aperture, even better. I saw on one of the discussions: "it's all about the Exif and IPTC and not about the file metatata." Please feel free to learn me on that. Cheers.

That answers some of it - the relocate files. That will allow me to put the files in the right year/month folder. I imported full folders into Aperture so need to edit the metadata date for multiple pictures at the same time. I understand when you select multiple pictures and then ajust time, it adjusts in relation to the first picture. In my case these things were taken by all sorts of crappy cameras & re-edited years later (2003 data). So pictures taken on the same day have 2001, 2003 & 2007 dates. I really do just wnt to set all of them to the same (ballpark) date.
So my goals are:
1) have the pictures land in the right referenced folder - answered
2) do a mass adjust time to the same date for a folder of images
3) have the projects then land chronologically inside Aperture - not sure about this one yet
Thanks for your help, it's very much appreciated.

Aperture 3 Referenced Masters on a Network Drive

I purchased a Synology Disk Station as my network attached storage solution. I was hoping to have my iTunes media and my Aperture referenced masters on the RAID-enabled network drives. I have had nothing but trouble with iTunes referencing media (extremely slow) so I gave up. Now I am attempting to relocate the Aperture masters to the network drive. According to this article, http://support.apple.com/kb/TS3252 I should definitely not be moving my images to the network drive, as the drive must be formatted as Mac OS Extended, but the Synology Disk Station volumes must be formatted as FAT32. Meanwhile, I did try to relocate some images. One problem I have is that if another user logs in to my iMac before me and mounts the network volume named Sally, when I log in and mount the network volume, the volume name is not the same, it is Sally-1, and Aperture cannot find the referenced masters! I imagine this would happen with any network drive when multiple users are logged into the Imac.
It seems like I have a gigantic network brick that I may be able to use as a glorified Time Machine backup drive, or is there something I can do about this? How does one have networked Mac OS drives? Connecting a drive to an Airport Extreme the only way?

Re iPhoto on a NAS:
Still trying to solve this.
iPhoto needs to have the Library sitting on disk formatted Mac OS Extended (Journaled). Users with the Library sitting on disks otherwise formatted regularly report issues including, but not limited to, importing, saving edits and sharing the photos. Simply a NAS is not a suitable home for an iPhoto Library.
Workaround: Make a dmg formatted Mac OS Extended (Journaled) and put the Library on that and store it on the NAS.
I think I have to mirror the iTunes solution above,
This involves having iPhoto reference the files on the NAS with the Library on your internal HD or some other volume. I strongly suggest that you don't do that. Unlike Aperture, iPhoto has no tools to reconnect with lost masters (Originals in iPhoto) so should anything go wrong you'll find yourself re-connecting each individual photo in the Library with its Original +one by one+.
but figure out which folders to move
You would need to recreate your Library as a Referenced Library.
Regards
TD

I have changed my main computer and now i have no masters for many of my photo's, i still have the old machine. How can i move the masters over?

I recently upgrade my old G5 to a new iMac. I bought this as a refurb however so it came half set up. I did the usual swap of data files, but now many photo's say they do not have the original master so i can do nothing with them. How can i transfer the old Masters from my old machine to the new one?
I must admit i find the whole aperture filing system very difficult to get my head around.
I simply want to make files and store photo's in them! Any help on the masters would be appreciated

Hallo,
what is your current MacOS on your new machine? MacOS 10.7.3? And your Apeture version 3.2.3?
How did you import your images into Aperture on your G5? Did you store them in the Aperture Library as managed masters or as referenced masters outside the Aperture Library?
If they are referenced, then you need to locate the folder with the master image files on your old mac and to tranfer them to your new mac, and then to reconnect masters and versions.
If they are managed, then probably some permissions got corrupted, when you transfererd the library and you should use the Aperture Library First Aid Tools to repair the permissions and to repair the library. See this on how to repair permissions and library:
Aperture 3: Troubleshooting Basics: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3805
If you do not remember, if your library is referenced or managed, open Aperture on your old Mac and select one of the images in the browser. If the Badge-Overlays show arrows in the lower right corner, then the imaster image files are referenced, also if on Ctrl-clicking the image you see the option "SHow in Finder" in the pop-up menu. Select this option, and it will open a Finder window with the folder containing your master images. Transfer these images to your new mac.
To reconnect the version to the masters on your new mac:
open Aperture, then select the images that need reconnecting in the browser,
then select "File -> Locate referenced files" from the Aperture menu.
In the window that pops up select an image to reconnect in the upper part of the window and select the corresponding master image file in the lower part of the window. If both images do match, the reconenct button will become available. Click "reconnect all".
Good Luck
Post back if you have more questions.
Regards
Léonie

Can't reconnect Missing Referenced Masters

I have a library which is a mixture of Managed and Referenced Masters. Library on SSD and Referenced Masters on HDD.
A very small number of Masters have gone AWOL and I can't reconnect them. Using Spotlight, I can locate the actual Masters with Finder - they are just where I expect them to be, in a subfolder in a Folder called "Aperture Masters" on my HDD.
Here is an example
The badge on this image looks like this
When I choose Update from Master, I get this message
So then I try to reconnect via "Locate Referenced Files..." and get this message
These images are findable by filtering on "Missing" or "Offline"
All but one have the badge with the arrow and the yellow triangle.
One has a badge like this (a kind of inverted MobileMe sourced badge
Any ideas on how to reconnect?

Interesting. The User Manual I was reading is a PDF and it defines the badge as this. Note that the badge is flipped in the two versions and the PDF doesn't mention FaceBook or Flickr.
Seems I should re-download the User Manual

Using the same Referenced Masters across Multiple External Hard Drives?

I have a large (2TB) desktop external hard drive that I am now using as the source of my referenced masters for Aperture.
I would like to copy this reference library ("My Photo Library") to a small, mobile external hard drive to use "on-the-go". But, if possible, I'd like to continue using the desktop external when I'm at home.
What's the best way to do this? Should I just copy "My Photo Library" from the desktop external drive to the mobile external and Relocate Masters? But then, how do I switch back to using the desktop drive when I'm home without having to Relocate Masters every time (my library is quite large: 17K+ photos of 8-21MB each). Is there a way to "trick" Aperture into thinking that both drives are the same drive???

Computer:
5" Mac Book Pro OSX (10.4.11) 2.2
Drives:
1x WD Studio Edition - 750 GB (Firewire 800)
1x LaCie - 750GB (USB)
Final Cut Express HD 3.5.1
(My minimal memory allowance is set to 3000MB)
(No external editors set)
HDV-Apple Intermediate Codec 1080i50
HDVFireWirePAL
Quicktime - 7.5
Camera - HVR-V1 connected with firewire
MiniDV Tapes, Mix of Sony & Panasonic (DVM60) - i know this is not advised, but i was in kenya, so getting the right tapes was not easy!
Is that everything? Is there any other information you need?
I have been working with Final Cut express while it has been installed on my WD hard Drive.
I have been capturing and editing my film through the WD hard drive very happily up until now, but now it is full with 10 of the tapes (and the application), and so I am now wanting to save the rest of my tapes on the LaCie.

Backing up Referenced Masters

Would like some advice on what you consider the best approach to backup when using a mix of Reference Masters and Managed Masters in the library.
My understanding is that you cant use Vault on Referenced Masters and cant use Time Machine either.
Your advice is greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
LArry

Just to be clear, all edits and adjustments, along with thumbnails and previews, regardless of managed or reference masters, are stored in Aperture Library.
Just use Vault to backup your Aperture Library (that has managed masters and adjustments, previews and thumbnails). Your referenced master, simply needs to be backed up by duplicating the files on another drive than where is resides. I simply save may referenced masters on two separate external drives when I read them off the card on exactly same folder/directory structure. If you get a RAID drive (other than RAID 0), it will do this for you automatically.
Many people use multiple Ap Library and is not an issue, but not typically for the reason you've brought up. Rather, one for business and another for personal, or one each for major clients.
Cheers

New user - managed or referenced masters?

I finally jumped and bought Aperture after having outgrown iPhoto and gone through the Ap2 and Lr demos.
Now begins the process of migrating my current and old photos into Aperture.
Right now I've got less than 15k photos. I have an organization scheme in mind, but I'm looking for advice as to whether I should go managed or referenced.
I realize that this isn't an all or nothing decision (it is really a project setting), and that I can change my mind later if necessary.
Managed:
+ simple
+ vaults backup images and Ap-specific data
- doesn't play well with Time Machine
Pros for referenced:
+ can span multiple drives
+ works well(better) with Time Machine
+ can easily share masters with other apps (I don't plan to)
- vaults only backup Ap-specific data, not images
Have I missed anything?
Any recommendations?

I prefer Referenced Masters even on a Mac Pro. IMO it makes for a clean backup workflow and a forever-logical organization. And Referencing Masters ensures that the size of the Library will always be small enough that it need not cause a hard drive to exceed 50% full and reduce speed.
• Finder-copy images from CF to a labeled folder on the intended permanent Masters location hard drive.
• Eject CF.
• Burn DVD copies of the original images.
• Eject DVDs.
• Import images from the hard drive folder into Aperture selecting "Store files in their current location."
• Review pix for completeness (e.g. a 500-pic shoot has 500 valid images showing).
• Reformat CF in camera, and archive DVDs of originals off site.
Note that the "eject" steps above are important in order to avoid mistakenly working on removable media.
-Allen Wicks

Aperture loosing track of referenced masters

I'm having a problem with Aperture loosing track of referenced masters. I have more than 10,000 images in Aperture most of them are stored as referenced masters. I have several projects where "some" of the files have (according to Aperture) gone missing. The images were imported into Aperture at the same time, have always been in their current location (in the same directory), and have not been treated any differently than each other. Looking at the files in the grid view doesn't show any differences in the master file location. Does anyone have any idea how Aperture gets confused?
thanks
Rich

It seems to be leopard thing, probably connected to either time machine or spaces. There are a number of threads about this, but no real answers as far as I know.

Changed disks in my RAID, Aperture lost all referenced masters.

I have a G-Speed eS RAID system. I had 4 X 1TB disks.
I decided to change the hard disks to 2TB ones to double my storage capacity.
I retained the same volume name. I backed up the 2.5TB of data to 3 other disks and then copied it back to my upgraded RAID.
So I have a completely identical file structure. My photos were in /Volumes/GS/photo, and this is where they are now. However Aperture lost all connections to the 35000 referenced files.
It seems that there is no way to tell Aperture that old /Volumes/GS and new /Volumes/GS is the same location from my point of view (is your point of view different?). This means I have to reconnect each one of the 100+ projects manually. I DO NOT LIKE THAT. Am I missing something, or is this a nasty oversight? Don't tell me that this is a "feature" and one can only move REFERENCED masters from within Aperture...
Note: Repairing or rebuilding the library does not help.

Your suggestion works, but
1) You have to first select all photos in the "photos" smart album. If you do select them all, "Reconnect All" will not work.
2) Most important, after reconnecting, I also told Aperture to rebuild my library. And it lost them again... The photos got connected to a <null> named drive which is shown as offline.
We are talking about a big deficit of reliability here...
I had a backup of my Aperture Library. So I reconnected the files again, without a Library rebuild this time.
But what if I need to rebuild my library in the future?? I AM SCARED...
No need to mention that I have lost all day moving around many gigabytes of data, reconnecting files, etc etc. This is hardly a productivity boost.
The worst part is that I like a lot the Aperture UI and I hate the alternative.
But Aperture is unfortunately unreliable.
Just play enough time with the loupe on my MacPro and the application will crash.

How do i backup referenced masters on EHD

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