How do I fix an "Insane Object" Error ?

I am receiving an "Insane Object" error when I load one partuclar VI. Is there any way to "copy" the diagram to a new file to fix the corrupted Object ? I am using Win N/T 4.0 and LabView 6i. The module was originally designed using LabView 5.X and the Module appears to work OK after accepting the Error Messages.

I think the most complete discussion of this situation can be found in the NI KnowledgeBase. Just go to the main ni.com site, search for "insane object" and follow the first hit.
That KnowledgeBase entry was created with a lot of input from some of the LabVIEW developers, so it's a pretty good guide.
Regards,
John Lum
National Instruments

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Hi all,
I'm getting the following error messages when I try to save my VI after running it:
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" " FPHP+20634 " " Waveform Chart (DDO)
" " FPHP+20E78 " " Scale (DDO)
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I read all of the info on insane objects available on the web site, and followed the instructions to fix the problem when it first appeared last week. I deleted and recreated the last charts and scales that I made, and eventually I recreated every chart and scale. This seemed to fix the problem, as I had no more error messages...until this morning.
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Thanks,
Andrew Poyton
McMaster University
Hamilton, Ont.

Andrew,
I was having a very similar error this morning. It turns out that the source of my problem was the range on the y-axis on one of my waveform charts was messed up. I had it set to autoscale and had been running the program and it plotted some really huge numbers because of a calculation error in one of my formulas. In any case, it seemed to run fine despite plotting bogus information, but when I went in to make changes and then tried to save I received the error messages similar to your situation and could not save. I fixed it as follows: I simply changed the values on the upper and lower end of the y-axis to something reasonable like +10 and -10. Then I tried to save and it worked just fine.
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http://digital.ni.com/public.nsf/allkb/AFA28DCC3DE89839862566B200594E8C
does not resolve this issue. Even when I close the VI & re-open it, I get the following error message:
I tried doing dozens of undo edits of the last 10 or 20 changes. None of them work. None of the suggested fixes work at all, either.
Worse yet, I can tell that my code is not what is looks like. It is not running the code that is on the diagram, it is running some previous version of the code.
Solved!
Go to Solution.
Attachments:
insane object error.PNG ‏12 KB

Hi Greg,
Thanks for your reply. It sounds like you've been on both ends of a serious error/crash resulting in code loss before.
As Murphy's Law would have it, it happened right before quitting time.
I decided to stick it out & make it a late night while I remembered most of my changes.
I quit & restarted LabVIEW, pulled the VI from a backup done the day before, opened up the backup version of the VI, opened up the bad code, and tried pasting changes in. However, I soon got oodles of "insane object" errors, and gave up on this route.
I quit & restarted LV, opened up the backed up VI, opened the bad new VI on a 2nd monitor (after configuring the display etc.), and manually re-drew (i.e., "re-wrote") all my code just by inspection.
This worked. (To play it safe, I also forced a system backup before going home, and saved lots of revs. along the way during my edits.)
I rarely have experienced "insane object" errors in my 10+ years of LabVIEW programming. Therefore, I have used little of other languages the past 10 years, and have developed so much re-usable code that I know well, I don't want to move away from it. It is quite unsettling / scary when it happens, especially on a large program. It makes me consider going back to text-based programming, where at least there's some inspection of all but the most messed up files (vim/binary mode, for example).
Anyway, I am on my way now, but will be even more diligent about "Save As" to save interim versions during long code writing sessions.
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I discovered this by creating multiple copies of the VI in LV 7.1 and deleting different block diagram elements from each and seeing which opened without error in 8.0 and which caused the problem until I finally discovered the problem piece of code. It was really a divide and conquer technique.
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Insane Object Error - Image.cpp

Is any other LV8.2 user having problems with customizing controls?
I have only needed to do this today since the upgrade to 8.2, and am having a hard time. I have yet to come up with an exact method to reproduce this, but it's getting to be a big problem, as LV crashes about 60% of the time when I'm editing controls.
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Message Edited by Day on 10-10-2006 04:04 PM
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I had a similar error message come up in the jump from LV 7.1 to LV 8.0. It would cause a couple of hard crashes of Labview whenever I worked with one particular VI. I found it was related to a wizard lock control that I had created in LV7.1 using the HMI Wizard options of my DSC module. I actually had two such loops in my original program, one behaved, the other caused problems in the upgrade of the VI to LV 8.0.
I discovered this by creating multiple copies of the VI in LV 7.1 and deleting different block diagram elements from each and seeing which opened without error in 8.0 and which caused the problem until I finally discovered the problem piece of code. It was really a divide and conquer technique.
I liked how LV 7.1 HMI wizard automatically created code that I could unlock and modify as I needed. It seems that the HMI wizard was eliminated from the DSC module of LV 8.0 and 8.2. There were several other major changes in the behavior of the DSC module from 7.1 to 8.0 which I am still trying to learn.
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