How do I get music from old 3G to 5, both have same login but lost password to 3G

I have an old iphone 3G with music and pictures that I want to save to my PC and Iphone 5.  I can connect them at the same time, but it will only allow me to play my music.  I am not able to save it to the PC or the other Iphone.  When I try a back up it ask for my ID which is (should be) the same as for the Iphone 5.   did have to change the password because I forgot it at some point.  Can the two phones have the same ID but different passwords if the new one was never used on the 3G?  I have always had one account, my password was compramised and I changed it to the current password that I have been using for sometime

You don't. You're going to have to use iTunes.
Media purchased from the iTunes store can be re-downloaded. Music ripped from CDs should still be in your iTunes library. If it's not, then re-rip the CDs. If you no longer own the original CDs, then you no longer own the music.
There are 3rd party applications that can attempt to extract the media from your phone, but they are not free and you will still need to use iTunes to sync it to the new phone.

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