How do I know if my mbp will support the airplay mirroring with mountain lion upgrade?
I purchased it in feb11 when they got rid of the 250g and replaced them with the 320g
nvrmind i see the tech specs
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How do I know if my MBP will benefit from heatsink paste reapplication?
Dear Mac Users
I know the theme of hot MacBook Pro's has been done to death, but I would like to add my two pennyworth with respect to the specific question: How do I know if my MBP will benefit from reapplication of the heatsink compound? I have trawled numerous very long threads here and not found a satisfactory answer. The reapplication of the heatsink paste is a bit of a schlep and not without some risk of breaking it, so it would be good to know if the benefit is worth the risk.
One common question is: "Are my MBP temperatures unusual?". A useful mac temperature database can be found at the following link:
http://www.intelmactemp.com/list
Consulting this list should set some parameter space for many users - there does seem to be considerable variability - suggesting highly variable quality of heat sink paste application by Apple. In my particular case I have an early 2011 MBP (i7, quad core, 2.2GHz). This certainly ran very hot. I even had a burn on my thigh from it, which took a while to heal. I know, they are notebooks, not laptops, but still . . . . To put very hot into perspective, the CPU was sitting at over 60C at idle, and whole case would be hot to the touch, such that resting your hands on it was uncomfortable. And yes, the computer was idling, there were no rogue processes chewing up cycles. At full load, the CPU would run at 90C and the whole thing would get very hot. I avoided running major projects or rendering jobs on it to preserve it from heat fatigue - the warranty is now up.
My first attempt at reducing the temperatures, was to clean it. The clue was in the USB/Firewire etc ports. All were very fluffy, which suggested that there was a lot of crud in the heatsink fins. Fixing this was simple; adopt anti-static precautions; remove the back panel; blow air into the exhaust vents at the base of the screen. Numerous large fluff bunnies popped out of the fans and elsewhere. Alternatively, you can unscrew the two fans and partially lift them out (without removing the power cables to the motherboard). Major fluff on the heatsink fins can then be tweezered out, prior to blowing it through, to ensure all debris is removed. I did this subsequently on my Core 2 Duo MBP. After defluffing the idle i7 CPU temperatures dropped from 60C to 43C, but perhaps of more importance was that the whole case was much cooler and the keyboard temperature was close to ambient - much nicer to use.
So that fixed the major heat problem. However, the question remained, would I see any further improvements by stripping the thing down and reapplying the heatsink paste? What I was looking for in this forum was a rule of thumb based on temperature measurements to help me make an informed decision on whether to strip the thing down. As my machine was out of warranty, I wasn't worried about voiding that. Also, where I am there is zero support (Africa), so Genius Bar or similar was not an option. But jiggering a 14month (very expensive) laptop was not something I wanted to do for thrills. The data in many of the posts did not provide any answers. In the end I made some measurements and decided to do the fix. The step by step instructions I followed were very clear and can be found for many Macs/models at:
http://www.ifixit.com/Device/Mac
This guide made life a lot less stressful, as pulling a connector the wrong way could trash the motherboard, and those connectors are so very tiny and fragile. It is very important to take it slow and follow each step to the letter (and not skip steps inadvertently). My before and after heatsink paste fix temperature data are shown below. The idle temps are improved, while the full load temps look like a marginal improvement. However, CPU temperature is not the only story. Certainly after the fix, the whole case is generally cooler, so the heat extraction system is working better. Also, the CPU before and after temps are quite similar at full load, but that assumes the CPU is running at the same power. I do not know enough about the i7 architecture to say if the before speed was being limited by heat, while in the after case the turbo-boost was able to run out to the maximum. Unfortunately, I didn't do any CPU performance tests. So, based on temperatures alone, it looks like a marginal improvement, but it is certainly making a difference to case temperatures.
Note all temperatures were measured at an ambient temperature of 20C on a flat, hard surface using Marcel Bresink's Temperature Monitor. Fan speed was measured using the Fan Control software - set to allow firmware control at idle.
Apple original heat sink paste - big dollop of grey crud and lots of extrusion at the sides.
Idle
CPU 43C
GPU 38C
Heat Sink 2 36C
Heat Sink 3 35C
Fan Speeds 2000rpm
Full Load (all cores maxed with a Boinc Distributed Computing Project (Rosetta - the project, not the Apple technology).
CPU 89C
GPU 57C
Heat Sink 2 52C
Heat Sink 3 49C
Fan Speeds 6200rpm
Arctic Silver heat sink paste
Idle
CPU 38C
GPU 34C
Heat Sink 2 33C
Heat Sink 3 32C
Fan Speeds 2000rpm
Full Load
CPU 86C
GPU 59C
Heat Sink 2 50C
Heat Sink 3 50C
Fan Speeds 6200rpm
Back to my original question: How do I know if my MBP will benefit from reapplication of the heatsink compound? I think temperatures alone will not give a good answer - mainly because the CPU probably has variable output - due to turbo boost. One thing I did notice is that the temperature response of the CPU when it gets switched to full load, does vary according to the quality of the heatsink paste. With the original Apple paste, when I switched the CPU to full load (from idle) the temperature of the CPU went up to its maximum almost instantaneously and stayed at that level ie the graph of temperature vs time was a step function. This suggests that the CPU may be controlling the temperature by throttling itself. Otherwise, as the heatsink warmed up, the CPU should also rise in temperature - mine stayed bang on 90C and fluctuated only by a degree either side. After application of heat sink paste, the CPU has a much larger effective thermal mass and consequently heats up much more slowly. Turning the CPU up to maximum from idle resulted in the temperature climbing to a maximum over about 3-4s. After peaking at around 92C it dropped back as the fans kicked in, to around 86C.
So perhaps one way of assessing the quality of your heatsink paste is to ramp the CPU to maximum from idle and look at the shape of the temperature profile. A step function suggests a lousy job and benefit may be had from reapplication. A more gently sloping profile, followed by a dip due to the fans kicking in, may suggest you are in good shape. Obviously, this presupposes that your Mac temperatures are not insanely hot to start with (i.e. high 90sC+). In which case, if defluffing doesn't do the job, then new heatsink paste is almost certainly required.
Regards, BBI'm sorry but this is too funny to pass up.
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how do I know if my macbook will support os x v 10.8... mtn lion?
Click here and follow the instructions.
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How can I Upload Pictures, from my Mac Book Pro Retina Display with Mountain Lion OS? Tried but it gets as far as i pictures but does not open?
This is not necessarily 100% correct at the current time.
As Dropbox is encouraging people to set it up for automatic uploading of photos they gradually increment your space as you load more pictures for free at the current time.
You do start with a fixed 2 GB but if you upload photos you will be awarded more free space.
You can also open a free account with Flickr - you may have some upload limits per day but you can upload pictures there. -
Any Idea when Apple will email the redemption code for Mountain Lion?
Any Idea when Apple will email the redemption code for Mountain Lion? I got a code but it said it was invalid on the app store. When will this issue be solved? Kind of getting impatient, given I dropped 2k over their product...
Any Idea when Apple will email the redemption code for Mountain Lion? I got a code but it said it was invalid on the app store. When will this issue be solved? Kind of getting impatient, given I dropped 2k over their product...
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How can I Upload Pictures from my Mac Book Pro Retina Display with Mountain Lion OS
How can I Upload Pictures, from my Mac Book Pro Retina Display with Mountain Lion OS? Tried but it gets as far asi pictures but does not open?
Upload? what does that mean?
You want ML forum? iLife? even notebook forum and directions to those?
iCloud? -
I have a late 2008 Mac Pro Quad Core 2x2.8 Intel Xeon with Lion 10.7.5… do I need Maverick and will this hardware support the Airplay Mirroring?
It doesn't mention anything about a Mac Pro. So no.
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5404
If your computer did support it, you would still need 10.8 or 10.9 for Airplay to work. -
Will MS office 97 work with mountain lion
My airbooks system is snow leopard, if I upgrade to lion or mountain lion, will MS office 97 files continue to work & open?
davezebra wrote:
Sorry I meant MS office 2008 for MAC, not 97
Ms Office 2008 works with Mountain Lion - I have a late 08 Macbook Uni with Mountain Lion and Office 2008. Just make sure your Office 2008 has the latest updates.
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Will Elements 6 be compatible with Mountain Lion?
Will Phoptoshop Elements 6 be compatible with Mountain Lion?
Keith... other folks as well.
I finally saw Terrence's link (RoaringApps) and went there. I can't believe I missed it. Apparently Elements 6 will be OK. THANK YOU TERRENCE! I suppose I could upgrade, but I'm so familiar with 6 I'm reluctant to leave it unless there's no other way out. I read the specs for Elements 10 and I see what might be a problem with meeting their spec requirements.
I thought the simplest solution might be to upgrade to Lion. Can't find it for sale anywhere. Oh well... and all this is to solve a recurring, stupid, blankety blank email problem. -
Will bootcamp and vista work with Mountain lion 10.8.2
PC died so got an iMac and setting it up with small "PC" on it for two programs I need that will only run on PC. I am wondering if Bootcamp works with 10.8.2 and Vista will work with both...or are there known issues.
Thanks,Vista will not work you will need Windows 7.
Run Boot camp Assistant that is included with Mountain Lion to create the Bootcamp partition for installing Windows 7. -
I want to know on what date will be on sale on osx mountain lion
I want to know when you will be on sale this software to buy, does anyone know on what date will be exactly? that mentioned in the apple page it would be this month and has not gone on sale
pedrobaca wrote:
? that mentioned in the apple page it would be this month and has not gone on sale
The month isn't over yet. They could release on July 31st and still be within their announced time period. We'll just have to wait and see. -
I upgraded to Mountain Lion, and yes despite all of the warnings posted in the App Store reviews about the battery life being cut in half, I upgraded my MBP anyway. Chalk this one up to the Black Cloud of "I Told You SO!" My MBP could hold a charge for almost 6.5 hours. Now I'm luck if I can get 3, but in most cases I may get 2.5 hours if I'm conservative.
Has anyone figure out how to fix this battery problem? Even now after having it unplugged for almost 2 hours...I'm getting the "You are now running on reserve battery power" message. What a freaking joke!
Any help would be greatly appreciated!Open /Applications/Utilities/Activity Monitor. Click %CPU until the triangle points down beside it. Make sure it says All Processes in the upper right. Check for applications taking up lots of CPU time.
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Will Aperture 3 support Canon Rebel T2i Raw picture format? I just got the camera and am disappointed that their software does not yet work with the Lion operating system. They said driver would be available in the first quarter of 2012 but when I checked it still is not on the list. I will upgrade to Aperature 3 from Aperature 2 if it supports the Canon T2i Raw files. Any input is appreciated.
Thanks.http://www.apple.com/aperture/specs/raw.html
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Will FCP Studio 3 work with Mountain Lion?
Will I beable to open my projects and work on them if I upgrade to Mountain Lion?
Yes, no and maybe...
By starting from your install DVD, you can copy the entire hard drive back from a TM backup. Takes ages though.
Retrieving documents is just a couple of clicks, as you probably know. Same goes for simple self contained apps.
FCS is a bit more complicated as it also puts lots of files into the Library and System folders -- some are even invisible. If you remove it or are starting with a brand new Mac, I doubt that you will get everything needed back by just clicking the half dozen icons in the Applications folder of a TM backup.
A cloned drive is a 1:1 copy. You can use the Restore function in Disk Utility. There are also apps such as SuperDuper or CarbonCopyCloner that can be used to make and retrieve your clone. -
IPhoto and iMovie will not open with Mountain Lion upgrade.
Since upgrading to Mountain Lion OS 10.8, my iPhoto and iMovie will not open. I am using a newly purchased MB Air. I re-installed iPhoto from the App Store after trashing my previously installed iPhoto application. IPhoto Library Manager was downloaded as recommended on Apple Support but also will not open. I also tried to trach the iPhoto plist as recommended by a community member. Each application (iPhoto and iMovie) bounces above the dock and message received that application unexpectedly closed. Thank you for any recommendations.
Process:
iPhoto [2167]
Path:
/Applications/iPhoto.app/Contents/MacOS/iPhoto
Identifier:
com.apple.iPhoto
Version:
9.3.2 (9.3.2)
Build Info:
iPhotoProject-670063000000000~2
App Item ID:
408981381
App External ID: 9487287
Code Type:
X86 (Native)
Parent Process: launchd [140]
User ID:
501
Date/Time:
2012-08-12 14:53:21.268 -0500
OS Version:
Mac OS X 10.8 (12A269)
Report Version: 10
Interval Since Last Report:
5547 sec
Crashes Since Last Report:
26
Per-App Interval Since Last Report: 18 sec
Per-App Crashes Since Last Report: 21
Anonymous UUID:
501D2913-2E99-4E4F-8DDA-9219A5FA4A58
Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGBUS)
Exception Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE at 0x00000000ac600000
VM Regions Near 0xac600000:
__DATA/__OBJC
00000000ac5ff000-00000000ac600000 [
4K] rw-/rwx SM=COW /usr/lib/libobjc.A.dylib
--> Submap
00000000ac600000-00000000ac601000
r-x/rwx process-only submap
__IMPORT
00000000ac600000-00000000ac601000 [
4K] rw-/rw- SM=COW /usr/lib/libobjc.A.dylib
Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0 ???
0xac600000 objc_assign_ivar + 0
1 libobjc.A.dylib
0x945aed47 object_setIvar + 353
2 libobjc.A.dylib
0x945aebda object_setInstanceVariable + 80
3 com.apple.AppKit
0x94cf8461 -[NSNibOutletConnector establishConnection] + 486
4 com.apple.AppKit
0x94cca15f -[NSIBObjectData nibInstantiateWithOwner:topLevelObjects:] + 1002
5 com.apple.AppKit
0x94ca8762 loadNib + 373
6 com.apple.AppKit
0x94ca7d84 +[NSBundle(NSNibLoading) _loadNibFile:nameTable:withZone:ownerBundle:] + 819
7 com.apple.AppKit
0x94ca795f -[NSBundle(NSNibLoading) loadNibNamed:owner:topLevelObjects:] + 256
8 com.apple.AppKit
0x94ca76ec +[NSBundle(NSNibLoading) loadNibNamed:owner:] + 418
9 com.apple.AppKit
0x94ca3688 NSApplicationMain + 447
10 com.apple.iPhoto
0x00010f40 0x1000 + 65344
11 com.apple.iPhoto
0x00010409 0x1000 + 62473
Thread 1:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.libdispatch-manager
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib
0x912569ae kevent + 10
1 libdispatch.dylib
0x995e1cc5 _dispatch_mgr_invoke + 993
2 libdispatch.dylib
0x995e17fd _dispatch_mgr_thread + 53
Thread 2:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib
0x912560ee __workq_kernreturn + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib
0x967d804c _pthread_workq_return + 45
2 libsystem_c.dylib
0x967d7e19 _pthread_wqthread + 448
3 libsystem_c.dylib
0x967bfcca start_wqthread + 30
Thread 3:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib
0x912558e2 __psynch_cvwait + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib
0x967da289 _pthread_cond_wait + 938
2 libsystem_c.dylib
0x967da512 pthread_cond_timedwait_relative_np + 47
3 com.apple.Foundation
0x96299506 -[NSCondition waitUntilDate:] + 404
4 com.apple.Foundation
0x9629932d -[NSConditionLock lockWhenCondition:beforeDate:] + 282
5 com.apple.Foundation
0x9629e880 -[NSConditionLock lockWhenCondition:] + 69
6 com.apple.proxtcore
0x01a3cba2 -[XTMsgQueue waitForMessage] + 50
7 com.apple.proxtcore
0x01a3bb60 -[XTThread run:] + 416
8 com.apple.Foundation
0x9626b318 -[NSThread main] + 45
9 com.apple.Foundation
0x9626b29b __NSThread__main__ + 1396
10 libsystem_c.dylib
0x967d5557 _pthread_start + 344
11 libsystem_c.dylib
0x967bfcee thread_start + 34
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