How do I move catalog in PSE5?

Hi, since moving all my photos to an external drive I'm having trouble starting the Organizer. I click on the icon in the Start menu, then click Organizer. I wait and wait but it never starts. I have to click it again. It will finally open but I get a message that the catalog failed to start or something similar. However I can access the photos through folder tree. I'm assuming that I need to move the catalog file (folder?) to the same drive and would like to know how to do this in PSE 5. I can find instructions for PSE 6 but I don't know if it's the same.
Is it possible to have the Organizer go directly to the external drive when opening? Right now it goes to My Docs/My Pictures.
Also are there any other changes I need to make?
Thanks
gwen

Barb, I found the file but don't see anything about any error messages. I've posted it below as it doesn't seem to be too large. I hope that's ok. I just tried something. I clicked on start - PSE - Organizer then fixed a sandwich and came back about 5 min. later. The organizer window just popped open so it isn't necessary to try it twice. It's just taking a looong time to open.
gwen
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