How do I permanently delete iMessages iMac

You can delete the conversation from iMessages on the iMac, but when the person messages you again, the entire previous discussion populates.
I believe this acts differently on the iPad and the iPhone.
Please advise.

Hi,
Messages on the Mac stores chats and iMessages conversations in two ways (if you use the Save on Closure item).
That is to say if you Save chats they are saved on Closure which includes Quitting the app in a file in ~/Library/Containers/com.apple.ichat/Data/Library/Messages/Archive
iMessages are also stored in ~/Library/Messages in the chat.db items.
These Databases will be the bit that in the case of iMessages will give you the "History" to previous messages/Conversations with that same contact.
Realistically all iMessages are "saved" in this manner and short of deleting the chat.db files every day there is not way to stop it.
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THIS THREAD IS FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE NOTICED THAT EVEN IF *ALL* SMS & MMS MESSAGES APPEAR TO BE VISUALLY DELETED AND YOUR IMESSAGES APP ITSELF LOOKS "EMPTY", YET WHEN YOU GO TO SETTINGS>GENERAL>USAGE, YOU CAN SEE THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, ON MY IPHONE 5s RUNNING 7.0.2, IMESSAGES SAYS: "Messages (Saved) 1.0 GB" YES, YOU READ THAT RIGHT, 1 GB FOR AN EMPTY FOLDER?? CLEARLY THERE ARE HIDDEN PHOTOS, VIDEOS, ETC. THAT WERE SENT THAT IMESSAGES IS NOT DELETING FROM THE PHONE; THIS SETTING IN "USAGE" APPEARS TO BE THE *ONLY* ONE THAT DOES NOT LET YOU "DELETE" THE DATA. IN ALL OTHER APPS, YOU CAN DELETE THE APP ITSELF OR (EVEN WHEN IT IS A BUILT IN APP) DELETE THE USER DATA FILES!
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https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3418045?start=945&tstart=0
http://www.idownloadblog.com/2013/02/06/ios-saved-your-sms-attaches/
(note: yes, this is STILL a problem under iOS7!!)
http://forums.imore.com/ios-7/257427-ios-7-usage-show-messages-history-consuming -1-2-gb-data.html
(again, even NON beta users like myself are having this issue, not just people like the ones who posted some of these threads)
http://imgur.com/r/ios/Rnpfp8V
(again, whoever posted this version may have been using a Beta of iOS7, but I am a "Regular" user who bought a new iPhone 5s and went through normal official install process and have iOS 7.0.2 on my phone (installed through normal iTunes sync/upgrade process) yet I, too, have this issue on my phone, as do apparently THOUSANDS of people!)

Striker wrote:
First, THANK YOU for taking the time to reply. The preamble was only meant to tell people who will insultingly give "beginner" answers that those of us that are having this issue are very smart folks and this is an "advanced" issue, not just a generic: "to delete a message, swipe it" inquiry.
That being said, I definitely agree with you that the messages are being cached/archived (without my permission, I might add) yet when the Messages app is empty there should be NO message data at all in the phone!
Out of frustration, I did a FULL factory restore just to see... yup, it is down to only 152 Kb(!) but when I restore from backup, it says "Messages (saved) 1.0 GB" !!
Yet the Messages app is still empty!
So, the fact that the iOS knows that there is data here, and heck, even adds the word "(Saved)" spelled exactly like that, means Apple KNOWS this situation may happen. So, Apple needs to please find a solution... all that needs to be done is add a User option to DELETE All Data. If it can SEE it, it should be able to DELETE it.
This is yet another reason why I sometimes hate "Finders" that do not allow you access to the data files themselves.
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Mine had 3GB and I just got rid of it all, here is how:
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Make a backup in iTunes
open iBackupBot (Google it)
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