How do I reorganize places tags?

I've been on Elements since before it was called Elements, continually upgrading and importing "the last catalog" into the new version.
I'm on Elements 11 at the moment (yes, a few revs behind) and my "Places" tags - imported from previous versions - are organized much as my keywords are - major category is Places, subcategories (like "Trips", "Schools", etc) and then the actual tag itself.
For example, at the highest level I have Keywords Tags, People Tags, Places Tags, and Events tags. Then under Places I have subcategories as outlined above. Then under (say) the Trips subcategory I have tags like "Backpacking," "Skiing", "Scuba", etc.
I just tried to create my first new Place tag. First, it seems to require that a place on the map be picked. I may not want to do that - the tag may not be associated with a specific place (like "Skiing" might be to different places. I did that anyway just to mvove this along - the process of creating the tag and choosing a place on the map went well and I now have the new Place tag, however the normal process left it sitting in the highest level hierarchy under Places - at what I consider the "subcategory level" rather than the tag level.
I've tried to figure out how to move it, or even create a new tag directly under the existing subcategories, but the system isn't allowing me to do that (there are no options to do either.)
Does EVERY new "Places" tag have to live at the highest level under Places? Is there NO way to organize them? What if I wanted a subcategory called "Spain" and then tags under it called "Madrid" or "Barcelona", for instance...? Seems like there's got to be a way.

Anyone? Is this something that might possibly be fixed in 12 or 13...?

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House Category
and, after clicking on 3 New Category in above screenshot, is seen after typing in House
After clicking OK to Create Category dialog, House is now one of the Keywords categories along with Nature, Color, Photography, and Other.
For House sub-category of Kitchen...right click House in the list of categories
And, after clicking on 2 Create new sub-category in the third screenshot, is seen the following after typing in Kitchen
After clicking OK to Create Sub-Category dialog, Kitchen is now one of the House sub-categories
If sub-category under Kitchen is required, right click Kitchen and select create new sub-category. And, so on.....
If a new category is wanted to join House and the rest, go to and click the triangle at the top right of the line that displays the header name Keywords.
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HI,
I have recently installed Elements 13 having used Elements 11.0 successfully to build a database of 30,000 plus images indexed by place, people, and photo date. Elements 11 allowed me to add new places which are meaningful to me but which are a complete mystery to the mapping technology of Elements 13. For example some years ago I lived in London in a road called Argyle Road. In elements 11 I could enter the place tag as Argyle Road. In Elements 13 I am required to locate Argyle Road on the map, but the map presupposes that the Argyle Road I am referring to is in Ealing in West London. It is not!
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I recently upgraded to Elements 12, and I am trying to tag my vacation photos. I tried to add a new Places tag. That resulted in me becoming extremely aggravated.
I had created dozens of places tags in several categories of places. I used a logical approach for organizing places, instead of using a strict geographical hierarchy.
Now Elements 12 will only let me add new Places tags by searching a Google map, and the new tags are forced against my will into a strict geographical hierarchy. So, while that is not what I'm used to, it at least makes sense.
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I am getting more and more frustrated by recent changes after having to update to PSE 12 from PSE 8 after a friend updated my computer system.
I am seventy seven and not compouter literate but I do try very hard to understand how things work
I have discovered after help from others how to add a tag to a place name but I have to do that via a world map which I do not like as it apprears in the Place tags as UK then a drop down with the new place tag.
Here is an attemot at a screen shot of the problem and how I would like tags to appear in futrure. ie as Strumpshwa, Titchwell etc NOT as UK>England>West Tisted. Do hope I have explained myself clearly so that someone can help.
IN PSE 8 it was so simple
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Hi Neileh,
Thank you so much for all your suggestions but I think I have finally reached terminal despair .
I did try and send an email to PSE but they seem to me to have a contemptible approach to users and I could not find how to send an email to PSE but kept being returned to forums.
Fir the time being I have had enough and I am growing more depressed by the lack of customer support and could not recommend the programme to others.
It may of course just be my ignorance of computers but I cannot be alone and so I am left with my present experience that PSE staff are unhelpful.
Huge thanks to you for taking so much trouble and I feel I have let you down for which I apologies.
The adding of PLACES in the Keyword drop down list is a palliative to my mind and not a cure for the problem as reasonable users would expect.
Please if you crack it please email me.
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PE12 can anyone please tell me simply how to do what I want bearing in mind
that I am seventy seven years of age and not computer literate.
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Me too!
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