How do I separate audio channels to edit them seperatly ... they are both in the same clip when I record from two diffrent mics on two diffrent channels
I have premier
elements 12
How do I separate audio channels to edit them seperatly ... they are both in the same clip when I record from two diffrent mics on two diffrent channels
timc
I do not see a way to separate audio channels to edit them separately in Premiere Elements (any version).
Premiere Elements does have audio effects including Balance, Fill Right/Fill Left, and Swap channels, but that is not what you are seeking.
I would refer you to an audio editor such as the free Audacity for what you want to do.
Splitting and Joining Stereo Tracks - Audacity Manual
I am not sure if this is close to what you seek
https://forums.creativecow.net/thread/3/883383
But, the opportunity seems to be in Premiere Pro, not Premiere Elements
Please review and consider and then let me your thinking on the matter relating to your Premiere Elements 12 (what operating system).
Thanks.
ATR
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Here is the part that got me - AFTER making your Selection in Multi-Track view - you have to go to Edit view in a certain way, so that you don't de-select your selection:
WARNING: Do NOT Double-Click the clip/file you want to Edit!!! Do not double left-click anywhere in MultiTrack View or you will de-select your selection.
note: You have to edit the files one at a time in Edit View, but if you go there using the correct procedure, you can transfer your selection you made in Multi-Track view.
4) Decide which clip is the hardest to one to loop (usually it's an instrument sample rather then a drum loop but you never know)
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^Make sure you Timeline selection is still in place and hasn't moved do to user error (e.g. accidentally clicking the timeline or shift-clicking and moving the selection by accident <--- which I do by accident when attempting to control+click)
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-Also, you don't HAVE to group the files as I did in step 12, you can drag the edges of the clips to the timeline selection one by one, I just find it easier to group them after you have set the loop on one of the files in Edit View.
-Remember, you can't select the files one by one and have the timeline selection transfer to Edit View IF you group the files prior to going into Edit View.
GOT ALL THAT? I sure as hell don't know if I do ...
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I'd also like to know why when you do a full zoom in, neither the selection or the clips will snap to the ruler points, only to just before and after the ruler points on the timeline.
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14) Point to the start or end one of the clips, when you see the icon showing arrows going either way, right click and drag your clips to roughly match up with the timeline selection, then zoom in further and adjust the clip start and end points to match up exactly with the timeline selection start and endpoints.
Here is the correction, THE CORRECTED PARTS ARE CAPITALIZED:
14) Point to the start or end OF one of the clips, when you see the icon showing arrows going either way, LEFT-CLICK and drag your clips to roughly match up with the timeline selection, then zoom in further and adjust the clip start and end points to match up exactly with the timeline selection's start and end points.
Another Correction:
Originally read:
Addendum: IF you have 2 files selected and click "Edit" to go to Edit view, it will give you the file of the clip you selected first, not 2nd. You must then go back to MT view, de-select the clip you selected first, then de-select the clip you want to edit, then RE-select the clip you want to edit.
Here is the the correction, CORRECTED PARTS ARE CAPITALIZED:
Addendum: IF you have 2 files selected and click "Edit" to go to Edit view, it will give you the file of the clip you selected first, not 2nd. IF YOU WANT TO EDIT THE 2ND FILE YOU SELECTED IN MULTI-TRACK VIEW, You must go back to Multi-track view, de-select the clip you selected first, then de-select the clip you want to edit, then RE-select the clip you want to edit, THEN CLICK "EDIT" TO GO TO EDIT VIEW.
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