How do I separate Podcasts out of Song List?

My podcasts are mingling in with my Music. They are separated in my library, but combine in my iPod Nano (2nd Gen). I tried Restoring & Updating versions which didn't help.

I have a question about doing the opposite: How do I take podcasts and put them (permanently) into my Music part of my library. For the mp3 podcasts it doesn't seem to be too hard, other than changing the "genre" from "podcast" to "speech" or "travel" or whatever and then re-loading them into the library.
But I'm having a problem with some (but not all) podcasts that are in m4a format (usually the "enhanced" podcasts with still images). Even if I change the genre to something other than podcast (in fact, some already come with genre not "podcast") and make sure the "category" is not podcast, I still have trouble getting them into "music" and out of "podcast" the way I can mp3 files.
I've tried deleting the podcast from my library and then moving the source folder containing the m4a files to something other than the iTunes folder and then using "add folder to library" or "add file to library." For some this does the trick and puts them into "music." But some are absolutely stalwart in their insistence on being podcasts!
Is there a "tag" somewhere in m4a files that says that they are podcasts (after I've downloaded them, and they're sitting on my computer) that makes iTunes put them into the podcast library?

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