How do I uninstall OSX Tiger?

I'll get right to the point. I need to remove OSX Tiger from my Mac. It has never run properly since installation over a year ago (just too slow) and I have been running on 10.2.8 instead (the two OS are on separate hard drives). Now the computer is exhibiting some strange symptoms, and I'm trying to remove everything non-essential to help me figure out where/what the problem might be.
I tried dragging the Tiger System folder to the trash but was told that I couldn't do that because "this item is owned by the root". How do I get rid of Tiger? Don't get me wrong, I have Tiger on my other Mac and love it, but it just isn't compatible with my older machine unless I make some expensive upgrades.
Thanks for any help you can give me!

Hi Tomellis. I know you said that you have two drives in your Mac. If you have one, use an external drive to backup EVERYTHING before you do anything.
Trust me, when the fatal QT 7.2 update crashed my MBP, I was very thankful to have a backup drive just incase.
After you backup your data (remember, the backup is just incase something happens), you could take the original install disks that came with your Mac. Then you could boot off of it and use the "archive and install" feature to box-up Tiger in one folder on one of your internal hard drives and you could put Jaguar or Panther back on. Your posts say you have a Blueberry G3, so I'm guessing you had Jaguar.
My Tiger disks had many features to choose from, so you should start there.
You don't have to backup your stuff, but I'd recommend it because it could help.
Hope you fix up your Mac the way you want it.
-TheNewMacca

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MSG-PWRBkG3
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Sorry for the long post. But, I have included as much up-front details as possible to assist in your replies. I also want to help others reading this thread later on as to what (correct or incorrect) procedures were followed... to help them see how these in-compatibility scenerios would be similiar to their situations... leading to solutions for all.

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Okay, I'm betting that this external USB drive was formatted as PC-Exchange/Windows format. Since this type of disk format doesn't have native support for the special "Mac" information about files (such as resource forks and HFS metadata like file type and creator codes), when Mac OS writes files to these disks, it needs to use a special method. When you copy the files from OS 9, OS 9 adds special "FINDER.DAT" files and also stores the resource-fork-parts of the original files inside a "RESOURCE.FRK" folder on the disk. My FAQ goes into more detail about this. When, from OS 9, you look at the files you just copied to the PC-formatted disk, and they appear identical to the files on your original 10 GB hard drive, that is in fact a complete illusion. The files as they exist on the PC-formatted disk are very different from what they appear. When you hook it up to your OS 9 Mac, the files appear fine, and you can copy them and have them work just like the original files did. If, on the other hand, you hook this PC-formatted hard drive up to your OS X Mac, it looks at the files in a completely different way. If you copy the files off of this disk from OS X, most of the files won't be usable.
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