How do you turn it off?

Question

Seriously. With the old 1G TV you could use the remote to put it into standby - hold down the menu button for about 4 seconds and then do the same with the play button. Awfully slow, but it did work (mostly). Can you put the new 2G into standby/sleep the same way? Or is there another way, or have Apple forced you to use the menus?
That last would be a right royal PIA as there would be no way to use a universal remote to put it into standby:-(
Anyone confirm either way?

Answer 1

Yes, but the Universal remote manufacturers are up a gum tree if the TV itself doesn't support any such command. I believe the 1G didn't have this initially and it was introduced later and that may be the case for the new 2G. But before I actually have one in my hand to try, I was asking whether anyone could confirm if it does have such a facility. As I said, if it does not, then NO universal remote will be able to overcome that.
Perhaps someone who has a 2G already would try it out and confirm if it does turn to standby with the same IR command sequence (that I outlined above) as the 1G. That WOULD be helpful.
Actually, what would be most helpful is for Apple to realise the importance of implementing true ON and OFF discreet IR commands for any device such as this as it is of PARAMOUNT importance to using it with a universal remote and let's face it, Apple expect this device to be used in an environment that typically would be controlled by a universal remote. The solution they finally added to the 1G was a very poor implementation of this concept. It takes a long time for the commands to complete and often seems to fail completely even when the remote is held pointing in the correct direction until the command sequence is truly ended.
The actual IR commands can be in addition to those that the Apple Remote can generate as they would be specifically for those installations where Apple's remote would not be used. For heavens sake, TV and Hi Fi manufacturers for years have been including additional discreet codes not used by their respective remotes, just to allow good integration with a home cinema/HiFi system. It is very aggravating when Apple insists on being so obtuse like this.