How hot are the new MBPs?

I have an original 17"
Was thinking of getting a new 15" for portability reasons.
Are they any less hot? Are there any articles or links where I can read more?
THANKS!
MacBook Pro 17" 100gb 2.16 ghz 2GB sdram Mac OS X (10.4.7)

I'm running the new Santa Rosa MBP in its fully-maximized configuration. There have been absolutely no problems with the machine, and I'm very pleased with this amazing computer, which replaces an iMac G5 as my desktop machine.
According to iStat Pro the internal temperature of the machine is in the low 50s C (about 135 degrees F) most of the time, with both fans running at about 2000 rpm. This doesn't seem unreasonable for a machine of this power and seems to be cooler than previous postings about older machines.
I have the machine on a Rhinollin pad on my exotic wood desk. The pad seems more than enough to permit ventiliation under the machine and is protecting the wood of the desk fine. It gets a bit warm but nothing that would come close to damaging the expensive wood.
I have the machine in a clear polycarbonate SpeckProducts shell. This has not changed the heat profile of the machine at all. BTW, the shell makes the machine look even sharper and protects it from 17 pounds of cat who thinks she should sleep on the cover when it's closed.
Scot
MacBook Pro 17" Mac OS X (10.4.9) 4G RAM, High Res Display, High Speed Hard Drive

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