How is JPG metadata saved after edit?

99% of my Beta and Prerelease work has been with RAW files. Last night I was playing with importing some legacy JPEG files, applying keywording and ratings. Trying to get some sort of DAM practice going.
When I make metadata changes to imported JPG files, I see the changes are persistent. I had hoped the metadata would be updated in / written to the actual JPG files, (to maximize flexibility in future). But a dissection of the file shows that it's not there. I assume the data is maintained in the LR library.
Whoops, here's a menu entry for XMP -> Import/Export that I've never had to use before. (I always keep the XMP sidecar preference set to on. Any import of RAWs, autocreates the XMP files.) [as a former RSP user, I'm a little more accustomed to that paradigm]
So, I export the XMP data, and instead of getting an XMP sidecar file, I get a copy of the JPG file, which is about 20% smaller than the source file, that does in fact contain the updated metadata.
What's happening here? Is the metadata update not made in a lossless manner? Is the copy a way of adhering to the premise of not altering the source file? Am I not doing something correctly?
For me, this is only pertinent to legacy/inherited files; I try to work stricly in RAW. But I may to have to rethink my DAM strategy if I'm going to have to keep two copies of my legacy JPGs.
thanks ....brad

Is there an option to write edit data to .xmp files for .jpg files, as there was in Beta 4.1? Most of my files are RAW, but occasionally I use a point and shoot camera that only saves files as .jpg. My workflow is to treat these .jpg files as master files (just like RAW files) and to never modify them. In Beta 4.1 I was able to do this with all of the edits stored in .xmp files. Now with V1.0, I see that all of my MASTER .jpg files have been re-saved by Lightroom, the existing .xmp files are not being updated, and it is unclear where the edits are being stored. I am VERY unhappy with this change as Lightroom has chosen to modify my master files without giving me an option!!!

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