How long does it take to format a seagate 1 TB hard drive for usage on both the PC and Mac?

We just bought a Seagate 1TB hard drive, and we are are trying to formatting it for use on both the PC and Mac. It seem to take forever, we ran it last night at 9pm and it still running. This is normal. How long does it mormally takes? And advise will be a god send... I am worry now.

Allan Eckert wrote:
I was feeling a little lazy and didn't feel like going into all the reasons what not formatting the disk drive for Mac was a bad idea.
Welcome to the Club of Sloth. I am the president. There are dues, but if one is too lazy to send them, we understand and don't mind.
Ciao.

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Yesterday there was a question in the USALUG.org "How long does it take to do a dist-upgrade on your distro?"
This question was a good question, so I decide to make the ultimate test. I have a lot of computers standing here around, and remembered that on one of them was have already Archlinux installation. I was right, when I booted, the system check said me, that the system was 253 days not checked anymore. I got so excited that I forgot to check was it one of my 0.7.2 Gimmick or 0.8 Voodoo installations.
The Computer
Dell OptiPlex GX110
[jada@arch-02 ~]$ cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor : 0
vendor_id : GenuineIntel
cpu family : 6
model : 8
model name : Pentium III (Coppermine)
stepping : 6
cpu MHz : 797.452
cache size : 256 KB
fdiv_bug : no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug : no
coma_bug : no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 2
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat p se36 mmx fxsr sse up
bogomips : 1596.45
clflush size : 32
[jada@arch-02 ~]$
I used the following command for the update
$ time pacman -Syu
The Test
first update pacman
[root@arch-02 jada]# pacman -Syu
warning: current locale is invalid; using default "C" locale
:: Synchronizing package databases...
core 23.8K 80.0K/s 00:00:00 [#####################] 100%
extra 310.5K 292.3K/s 00:00:01 [#####################] 100%
community 341.0K 295.8K/s 00:00:01 [#####################] 100%
:: Starting full system upgrade...
:: Replace mktemp with core/coreutils? [Y/n] y
:: Replace mpg321 with extra/mpg123? [Y/n] y
warning: bind: forcing upgrade to version 9.4.2-1
warning: cpufrequtils: forcing upgrade to version 002-3
warning: dnsutils: forcing upgrade to version 9.4.2-1
warning: flex: forcing upgrade to version 2.5.33-4
warning: opera: forcing upgrade to version 9.25-2
:: pacman has detected a newer version of the "pacman" package.
:: It is recommended that you allow pacman to upgrade itself
:: first, then you can re-run the operation with the newer version.
:: Upgrade pacman first? [Y/n] y
resolving dependencies... done.
looking for inter-conflicts... done.
Targets: libarchive-2.4.11-1 libdownload-1.3-1 pacman-3.1.1-1
Total Package Size: 1.19 MB
Proceed with installation? [Y/n] y
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libarchive 314.8K 253.4K/s 00:00:01 [#####################] 100%
libdownload 49.4K 97.9K/s 00:00:01 [#####################] 100%
pacman 855.2K 460.4K/s 00:00:02 [#####################] 100%
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cleaning up... done.
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>>> The makepkg.conf syntax has changed, please note the new format
>>> when merging the pacnew file with your old configuration.
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resolving dependencies...
warning: dependency cycle detected:
warning: bash will be installed before its glibc dependency
warning: dependency cycle detected:
warning: readline will be installed before its glibc dependency
warning: dependency cycle detected:
warning: ncurses will be installed before its glibc dependency
warning: dependency cycle detected:
warning: db will be installed before its coreutils dependency
looking for inter-conflicts...
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zenity-2.20.1-1-i686 1896.3K 546.6K/s 00:00:03 [#####################] 100%
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freetype1-1.3.1-4 119.9K 129.5K/s 00:00:01 [#####################] 100%
gkrellm-2.3.1-2 724.3K 411.1K/s 00:00:02 [#####################] 100%
xmms-1.2.11-1 1945.1K 557.0K/s 00:00:03 [#####################] 100%
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( 1/349) upgrading ncurses [#####################] 100%
( 2/349) upgrading readline [#####################] 100%
( 3/349) upgrading bash [#####################] 100%
( 4/349) upgrading kernel-headers [#####################] 100%
( 5/349) upgrading tzdata [#####################] 100%
( 6/349) upgrading glibc [#####################] 100%
(340/349) installing wavpack [#####################] 100%
(341/349) upgrading xine-lib [#####################] 100%
(342/349) upgrading xinetd [#####################] 100%
(343/349) upgrading xkeyboard-config [#####################] 100%
(344/349) upgrading xmms [#####################] 100%
(345/349) upgrading xorg-server [#####################] 100%
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(346/349) upgrading xorg-xinit [#####################] 100%
(347/349) upgrading xscreensaver [#####################] 100%
(348/349) upgrading yelp [#####################] 100%
(349/349) upgrading zenity [#####################] 100%
real 56m46.062s
user 4m25.013s
sys 1m46.520s
[root@arch-02 jada]#
And for your tread question.
How long does it take to do a dist-upgrade on your distro?
one hour
real 56m46.062s
user 4m25.013s
sys 1m46.520s
After reboot the system loads all new applications with out any problem. Later I replaced the intel-video driver "xf86-video-i810 1.7.4-6" with the driver xf86-video-intel 2.2.0-2. No problems at all.
Archlinux rocks

JaDa wrote:Archlinux rocks
definitely. By contrast, here's a regular upgrade on my debian box -- out of the blue it's having some problem with one of the packages, and it's turning into a regular recursive nightmare.
root@moe:~ # apt-get upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these.
The following packages have unmet dependencies.
E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.
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Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Correcting dependencies...Done
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exim4-base exim4-daemon-light
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exim4-doc-html exim4-doc-info eximon4 libmail-spf-query-perl
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[ Rootkit Hunter version 1.3.0 ]
File updated: searched for 152 files, found 131
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Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
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root@moe:~ #
It's so "delicate" and temperamental compared to the no-nonsense, straightforward approach of Arch. If one little thing is off, the entire system has a hissy-fit and won't do anything until you hunt the internet high and low searching for a solution, encountering all the debian hawks along the way who are ready to rip your head off at the first suggestion that debian isn't directly from god and could have a problem. Imo, Arch is the best linx distro hands down. Nothing else even comes close.

How long does it take to create a recovery disc?

Hi!!!
I have just bought a Toshiba Portege T110.
I tried the first time round and cancelled at disc 4 bec i was out of writeable disc.
Today i am on my 2nd try. I have mgt disc 1-3. When at disc 4~~it says is creating Windon Recovery Environment (64bit) and recording. But the progress bar has been hanging there for the abt 1-2hrs and still not done yet~~
I tried to cancel the program, but it says is recording and advise me not to cancel as it will take a long time.
Can some kind soul advise if this is normal? How long does it takes? If not, what could be the problem?
Thank you in advance!!!

Hi all~~
i have the answer to my question alrdy~~
i accidentatly canceled the copying after waiting over 2 hr on disc 4~~
I restarted the process this morning~~~as i have alrdy done disc 1-3~~i am able to start at disc 4 straight away!!!
Disc 4 took less then 10 mins to complete.
So guys~~ the whole process from disc 1 to 4 takes less than 1 hr.
All the best to you guys!!
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