How many processes after intial start on RedHat 7.2

Ok, I'm trying to do an evaluation of Sun ONE 7 (or whatever the official name is now) using RedHat 7.2 on a 500mhz PIII dell with 192MB of memory. Before I start the appserver there are 73 processes on the box, after I start the appserver, there are 253 processes. Seems a bit extreme. I've tried the install on a Solaris 8 box, and the number of processes is significantly lower (approx 10 additional processes after start-appserv).
I've tried the install with and without the sample applications. What gives here (other than my CPU load ... )
thanks,

While this may sound extreme, I believe that what you see is due primarily to a difference in Java native thread handling between Linux and Solaris - on Linux, each Java native thread will get its own process table entry while on Solaris this is not the case. This got "fixed" in RedHat 9....
This article has some more information on this:
http://developer.java.sun.com/developer/technicalArticles/JavaTechandLinux/RedHat/

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