How Noisey are Power Mac G4s?

Hi Guys,
I am looking at replacing my eMac with a Powermac G4, probably a quicksilver or later.
My reason for this is that I am needing more expandability than the eMac currently has.
An issue I have with the eMac is its quite noisy, so I am wondering what the Power Mac is like?
Cheers
Craig

I think one of the Quicksilver models (or maybe it was a MDD) was nicknamed the "windtunnel" if that's any help. I know my QS is fairly noisy and you can tell it is running from 20 feet away. There are Web sites on making them quieter with less noisy fans and other methods. I don't have the reference but I believe the later generation G4s were generally pretty noisy and it wasn't until you get into G5s that things such as variable fan speed really come into play.

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