How to automate pan/zoom ?

Version: Adobe Premiere Elements 12
OS: Windows 7
I do a lot of montages where the bulk of the video is from pictures.
Is there a way to automate pan/zoom in a random way that I can subsequently modify to my liking ?
Most times I have a lot of pictures, if I have to do picture by picture manually it will take me forever. It's not really an option...
I'm happy to buy an add-in if anybody knows of any.
Thank you,
Simon

Simon
After you have created your slideshow in Elements Organizer Create Menu/Slideshow and its Slideshow Editor, be sure to save it to the Elements Organizer as a Slideshow Project. For that, look to the top left of the Elements Organizer workspace. In the line directly below the lineup of File, edit, View, and Help Menus, click on "Save Project". The Slideshow project will be save to the Elements Organizer as a "Slide Show Project". Look to the top right corner of the saved slideshow's thumbnail in the Elements Organizer workspace. When you have your mouse cursor over that area, a pop up with confirm Slide Show Project. In this format, you can double click that thumbnail to reopen the slideshow in the Slideshow Editor workspace from the Elements Organizer workspace for further edits and re-saving to the Elements Organizer workspace. You can even right click that thumbnail in that location and select Edit with Premiere Elements (if you do not want to go back into the Slideshow Editor workspace.)
Now, if you are in the Slideshow Editor and want to move the finished Slideshow to Premiere Elements, then, in the Elements Organizer Slideshow Editor, go to the Output option at the top of that workspace and select Edit with Premiere Elements Editor. That will put your slideshow on the Premiere Elements Timeline as a whole video file. Here is the nice part. If you want to do further edits of this whole video file, right click the whole video file on the Timeline and select and click on Break Apart Elements Organizer Slideshow to give you the flexibility for further significant edits.
Please note the following details which must be included so that they do not come as a surprise...
a. Best set manually the Premiere Elements project preset before opening the Elements Organizer for the transfer to the slideshow to the Premiere Elements project. The following includes how to set manually the Premiere Elements project preset.
ATR Premiere Elements Troubleshooting: PE11: Accuracy of Automatic Project Preset (New Project Dialog) Setting
Have you had time to read the Adobe document on creating slideshows.
Adobe Elements Organizer 11 * Creating slide shows (Windows only)
Please do not hesitate to ask if you need further clarification on anything written. We can fill in clarification, including screenshots if necessary.
Looking forward to learning of your progress.
Thanks for the follow ups.
ATR

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After creating a slideshow from Organizer > Create Slide Show, the pan/zooms are added but they only start after the 2 second transition is finished.
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Ok yep you are great, so I'm sorry I'm attempting to do it on video clips, not stills.
I was aware that the last versions of PE had similar Pan and Zoom workspaces, that's why I knew or thought I knew that my situation could be solved.
The first link that you recommend is exactly where I got the third paragraph of my question, so I had already reviewed that and to me when you read the directive it still makes it sound like you can adjust the focus frame markers....? (very confusing)
The second link you sent might have helped me realize that the tool doesn't work the same way for Stills and it does for Video clips; (I really think like on the Adobe web site this difference should be markedly more clear to help with confusion; but in their defense maybe it's me being slow to understand)
I was able to figure out some of the difference through perseverance last night, and did figure out (like your last link explains) that you can move the CTI and then add a new focus frame...BUT I still have my original question...how can you adjust the pan duration on a video clip after it's been made and you have left the pan and zoom tool like if you want to edit that timing... I think the answer is that you can't lol, I think it has to be deleted or a new focus frame added and the other deleted to adjust the timing...am I correct?
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Thanks for all the comments everyone, and thank you also Tom Wolsky for your great tutorial books and DVDs that have helped me to gain some competence with Final Cut. I recommend them highly to anyone learning the program.
To shed some light on the purpose of my original post, the project I'm working on contains both video footage and still images. In this video I'm demonstrating how to paint pictures, while using still images of historic paintings as examples of how the old-time painters did things, compared to what I'm doing now.
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I find that there is something comfortable and soothing about good pan/zooms as compared to the unsettling feelings and irritation caused by watching jerky starts and stops, with unnatural acceleration and deceleration between.
You have all made it clear to me (thanks again) that it is a matter of the mathematics involved in Final Cut's treatment of pan/zooms that makes it hard to get smooth movements of that type in FC. I still think it's odd that I can get wonderful pan/zooms from a cheapie little program like Photo-to-Movie but not a pro application like Final Cut, but at least PTM can get the job done for me, although it is a slowdown to have to use it. I first have to create the pan/zooms on still images in PTM and then export them as DV clips to drop into Final Cut. If a pan/zoom then needs adjustment, I have to throw the clip away, go back to PTM and modify the movement, and then export a fresh clip. Very slow.
By the way, I visited the Photo to Movie website, which I haven't done for a long time, and I see that the price of the program has now doubled to $50. The authors have apparently gotten big ideas and have added transitions, titles, and other kinds of editing besides just movement. On their demo webpage <http://tinyurl.com/yfej3j4> you can see sample pans and zooms created by the program. The third sample movie down from the top, with the zebras, shows some of the types of motion I'm after, such as the scene that zooms gently in on the turtle's head or the dog near the end of that movie. Note how smooth the starts/stops are.
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Maybe if I can gain a better grasp of Motion 2 I could do better with it than my first attempt yesterday, and I could also also round-trip between Motion and Final Cut to quickly adjust the movements, but I just don't know the program well enough yet to do that. I'll search for tutorials and demo movies on Motion. Someone above has also said that Motion 2 is inferior to version 3 in this respect, and I don't have 3, so I guess I'm stuck with Photo to Movie for the present to get smooth pan/zooms.
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