How to Backup FROM (Not TO) Airport Extreme Disk via Time Machine

I'm running 10.5.2 and all the latest updates to Airport Extreme. I know there are problems backing up with Time Machine TO an Airport Extreme attached HD, but can I backup FROM one via Time Machine.
When I attach a drive to A. Ex. I can see it fine on any Mac on my LAN, but Time Machine doesn't show it in the area where I can choose to exclude items, making me question whether it would be backed up at all.
Any comments/suggestions?
Thanks...
DHK

Configure the AirPort Extreme base station (AEBS) to act as a bridge. That will put the computers connected to the D-Link on the same subnet as those connected to the AEBS.

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