How to be sure g5 is dual processor

How can I be sure my G5 is a dual processor 2.7 or 2.8ghz? That's how it was advertised when I bought it, but in about this mac this is what shows:
powermac G5, 9.1
power pc G5 3.0
cpus 1
cpu speed 1.8ghz
l2 cache per cpu 512mb
memory 3gb
bus speed 600mgz
boot rom version 5.2.2f2
help!
thanks

You are probably not going to be pleased by the true specs on the machine, but here are two sources:
http://support.apple.com/kb/SP67
http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g5/stats/powermac_g5_1.8_2.html
That machine would be considerably slower than either the 2.3 or 2.7 dual processor models in many tasks.
You can also check out the configuration label which is located inside the side panel directly below the air deflector.
Representing the machine as the any dual processor model is clearly misrepresentation.

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