How to become Mentor & Moderator?

Dear Friends,
I was just tracking the earlier post regarding how to become a Moderator, but there seem no definite answers...
Can someone please tell me answers to following:
1. How to become a Mentor in any one of SDN Forum?
2. How to become a Moderator in any one of the SDN Forum?
Thanks,
Jignesh Mehta

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Ravi Sankar wrote:
> My observation says, Mentor and moderator are opposite roles. Mentors should have more patience to encourage members participation. They never recommend the members to search forum even for a basic question. Moderators should not have soft corner and if somebody violates the rules of engagement of this forum, they move the threads to other forums, lock the threads, guestify the members. If any thread is found inappropriate, they will move it to coffee corner by default.
I disagree with you on this from both angles.
First, although not a SCN Mentor, I mentor and have mentored many juniors/freshers. It's a sometimes frustrating, but mainly rewarding task, that I'm glad to undertake. As a mentor though, I have zero patience for people who won't try to help themselves and expect answers to be spoonfed. I want those under my guidance to learn how to fish - not just give them a fish.
So mentoring involves not just helping with the specifics, but also guiding people in the techniques for solving problems themselves.
Now, moderating isn't all about enforcement - it's also about education.
With regards to easily searched, basic questions, if the person has clearly tried and still not got it, then I'll gladly help. But questions like "how do I convert dd/mm/yyyy to yyyymmdd", "how do I send external email from SAP", "how do I download a table to my PC" - these Frequently Asked Questions - no-one, never mind mentors should be responding. They should be reported to the moderators.
Now, with newbies, I, at least, strive to be gentle, by for example, sending them an email asking them to read the Rules of Engagement, and to try to search first. I even suggest what keywords to use. But if they've a few hundred posts, then they'll get a stern rejection. Even then, some people just don't pay attention. sigh On the other hand, some people manage to get a stay of execution by showing, and proving, a desire to change. One of our best contributors came very close to guestification in the early days, but "heaven has more joy over one sinner who repents...!".
My goal as a moderator is to keep the forums clean and useful. Not just as a place to ask questions and get answers, but also a searchable resource. Otherwise, we might as well just delete all questions older than a month!
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