How to control Display Rendering Intent in PS CS3 & XP?

Does anyone know a way to control the display rendering intent in Photoshop CS3 runing on XP?
The consensus seems to be that Relative Colormetric is always used. If I am using a large working space such as ProPhotoRGB, I would like to be able to switch between Perceptual and Relative Colormetric.
Here is some info I think may be relevant:
http://www.color.org/advantagesv4.pdf says one of the advantages of v4 over v2 is to "permit profiles containing multiple rendering intents to be specified for input and display devices as they currently are for output profiles".
Using http://www.color.org/version4ready.xalter I see that my system is not v4 compatible, but Photoshop CS3 does correctly render images with v4 profiles on my computer.
When I look at the profile that came with my monitor, using ICC_Inspector from http://www.color.org/profileinspector.xalter, I see it is ICC version 2, and the rendering intent is listed as Perceptual.
If use Monitor_RGB as my working space, and do edit > convert_to_profile, converting from ProPhotoRGB to MonitorRGB:
Using engine:Microsoft_ICM, I get different result for Perceptual vs Relative_Colormetric.
Using engine:Adobe(ACE), I get the same results for all intents, and they all look very close to Microsoft_ICM Perceptual.
However the original image in the ProPhotoRGB space is apparently rendered to my display space using Relative Colormetric because it looks like the image produce using convert_to_profile: Microsoft_ICM Relative Colormetric.
Thanks.

Let me think about this.
Looking at my monitor profile with the Color Sync Utility (I’m on a mac), the rendering of the profile is Perceptual.
With Photoshop, I open a saturated Pro Photo image. View: Proof Setup: Custom. Device to Simulate, Monitor Profile.
This is supposed to show me a file conversion to my monitor color space. I see no change in color (as long as preserve numbers is disabled). It makes sense, because the conversion is something that happens anyway. I can never truly see a Pro Photo image. It must be translated to my monitor profile before I see anything.
I can change the rendering and black comp all day long and it does not affect the color I see. I have to assume that what I see is actually a Perceptual rendering, not Relative Colorimetric, because Perceptual is the intent embedded in the Monitor ICC profile.
CMYK is a little different. With the same image open, View: Proof Setup: Custom. US Web Coated SWOP v2. Relative Colorimetric, Black Point checked. Simulate Paper White.
Now duplicate the image. Convert to Profile: US Web Coated. Relative Colorimetric, black point enabled. Now View: Proof Setup: Custom. Device to Simulate, monitor profile. Absolute Colorimetric.
Comparing the two images, the color is a dead on match.
In the second image (already converted to CMYK), if I change the rendering and black comp, the color shifts dramatically. This behavior is different from what I saw earlier, soft proofing Pro Photo to monitor, where the rendering and black point settings did not change the image color.
So at this point I have to conclude that Photoshop can control the display rendering for a CMYK image. But with RGB, it’s locked in somehow. I would imagine it defaults to Perceptual, not Relative Colorimetric. Can you open your monitor profile and check the rendering?
I have a utility that actually allows me to change the intent of an ICC. I went ahead and did that to the monitor profile and saved a copy, with Relative as intent. Using this in Proof Setup (with Pro Photo image) also yields no change. Makes sense, because the color gamut of the new copy is identical, and Photoshop is rendering a file conversion.
To get the Relative Colorimetric display requires changing the system profile to the new profile. Unfortunately when I do this, the screen color goes absolutely bonkers. All color are super saturated and I can hardly make out anything. I have no idea what that means.
I apologize for rambling on, I’m probably not much help. Thanks for the link and I will look into this matter more when time allows.

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          mainPanel = new JPanel();
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          scrollPane = new JScrollPane(mainPanel);
          setContentPane(scrollPane);
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          Frame frame;
          WindowListener exitListener;
          exitListener = new WindowAdapter() {
               @Override
               public void windowClosing(WindowEvent e) {
                    Window window = e.getWindow();
                    window.setVisible(false);
                    window.dispose();
                    System.exit(0);
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          frame.addWindowListener(exitListener);
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}Many thanks in advance, I'm getting crazy on this one :)

Ok, thanks for this information, I thought I had seen this happening in the past when embedding a component in the center area of a JPanel with BorderLayout.
Anyway, as I said I tested with JScrollPane as well and it does not change anything.
Here is the code modified:
@SuppressWarnings("serial")
public final class CGridBagLayout2 extends JFrame {
     JPanel mainPanel;
     private final JScrollPane scrollPane;
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               c.gridx = 0;
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               JLabel b = new JLabel("BBBBB");
               c.gridx = 1;
               mainPanel.add(panelize(b, BorderLayout.NORTH), c);
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               c.gridx = 2;
               mainPanel.add(panelize(new JScrollPane(d), BorderLayout.CENTER), c);
               JEditorPane e = new JEditorPane("text/html", TEST_BIGTEXT);
               c.gridx = 3;
               mainPanel.add(panelize(new JScrollPane(e), BorderLayout.CENTER), c);
     public CGridBagLayout2() {
          super("GridBagLayout");
          mainPanel = new JPanel();
          addComponentsToMainPanel();
          scrollPane = new JScrollPane(mainPanel);
          setContentPane(scrollPane);
     public static void main(String[] args) {
          Frame frame;
          WindowListener exitListener;
          exitListener = new WindowAdapter() {
               @Override
               public void windowClosing(WindowEvent e) {
                    Window window = e.getWindow();
                    window.setVisible(false);
                    window.dispose();
                    System.exit(0);
          frame = new CGridBagLayout2();
          frame.addWindowListener(exitListener);
          frame.setPreferredSize(new Dimension(1000, 800));
          frame.pack();
          frame.setVisible(true);
}Edited by: eric_gavaldo on Sep 15, 2010 2:18 PM

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Hi !
Started a tread in the other "answers microsoft forum" bur got redirected here hence they thought that this was a developer-question...
My original Thread:
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-hardware/how-to-edit-display-idmonitor-id-or-erase-display/62eeace8-358c-4d65-8609-a3df7c3ac216?rtAction=1425277245844
question:
Have a problem that appears sometimes.
Setting up workstations at work with multiple Display-Monitors, its part of my job...
The Actual ID that the monitors get from Windows is usually not a problem, most programs can adapt to the windows settings and everything is fine.
BUT some of the systems we run sends commands and stuff to based on the actual number of the display, the number that appears on the screen when clicking the "identify button" in the desktop/display-settings from control-panel.
Lets call it the HardWare-ID of the Display
the computer, or windows remember display´s EDID and stores the monitors that has been connected in a list ?
If I installed the monitors/displays in correct order everything is good and works like we want it to.
So it happens that a display brakes or switch place for some reason, or maybe a driver-upgrade resets the display-list and windows now initiates the monitors in the wrong order.
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We have 3 options.
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3 - re-install windows and hope that the displays get the correct ID and the continue with customer applications and so on.
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Tried clean driver-installs from AMD and Nvidia for the graphics cards, worked one time, until I rebooted the machine, the back to square one...
Then they ponited at Microsoft.
Having talked to Microsoft Support they dont support this kind of things....
I dont have the skills, but I cant se a problem with a scrips that deletes the reg-edit EDID list after a reboot ?
then it wouldnt be so complicated, simply:
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clearification:
Hi !
The question remains.
Not sure you guys understand my problem, doesent seem so...
I have the need to sweep the computers display-memory
The Application we are using is sending the commands to to logical screen number, not primary or secondary screen.
So It is Vital that I can decide or edit the logical numbers of the displays/screens
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the application still sends the commands to teh logical numbers, and we dont want to reconfigure that if we changed a display that was faulty.
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I Need to disconnect displays så that I only have one connected
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can anyone help me `?
NOT connected to any Domain.
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Hi Experts,
please give me some idea because I am New In BSP.
How to Download displayed output to Excel Using Bsp Application.
If any sample code please do send me.
In my condition I am getting data in 2-3 table view formats on one page and i want download that in Excel.
please help me.
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Hi,
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