How to extend secondary cost element validity period?

Hi guyz,
Is there any way to extend assessment cost element validity period ?
Need your answers asap..Thanking you

Hi,
Let me give you one ex., Suppose you have created sec. cost Element through KA06 for validity peirod 10.02.2009 to 31.12.2009. So, when you are extending the validity period for the same, you need to create this sec. cost Element again with validity from 01.01.2010 to the date you require (say 31.12.2010 or 31.12.9999).
Hope it will clear to you. Pls get back for further query.
Thanks & Regards,
Taral Patel

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Dear Frank,
Thank you for using the SAP SDN Forums,
In relation to your query please refer to the information contained in Note: 37093 for details on extending the validity period of a Cost Center
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Run the LSMW.
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