How to flash MSI 6970 Lightning
Hi,
I recently contacted msi support about a performance bios issue with my MSI 6970 lightning. They emailed me 3 files, an atiflash file, and atiflash application file, and the update bios.bin file. They also e-mailed me directions but they're in japanese. Can anyone clarify what I need to do in order to re-flash my MSI 6970 ATI Lightning card? THanks!
No the card runs @ 940mhz core clock, the issue I was having was when I set the card profile to performance from silent the display wouldn't work. They sent me the updated bios to fix this issue but the directions are in japanese and when I translated them via google I didn't understand what they were saying to do.
***EDIT After some google research I think I have the basic idea... please let me know if i'm correct.
Step 1: Create a bootable MS-DOS Drive(Either CD or USB)
Step 2: Unzip the ATI Flash files and updated bios to the drive
Step 3: Reboot, go to bios, set the MS DOS drive to boot priority 1
Step 4: In DOS command type "atiflash -p 0 biosname.rom" In my case it would "atiflash -p 0 TV237MS.102"
The bios update they sent me ends with .102 instead of .rom.. that an issue?
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Use the attached
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