How to flash Neo4-F BIOS

My Neo4-F will be arriving soon, and will probably be v.1. I will be using it with an Opty 180 cpu, and an 8800 GTS 320 gpu, 2 mb ocz memory, 700W OCZ gameXtream psu.
I would like to flash it with the latest modded Bios, one with all options opened for changing. Does Syar have one, or, if not which modded Bios version could I use?
The second question is how to flash it? My Neo2 Platinum was flashed with Syar's latest 1.c3 by using Winflash - excellent, never got any problem with it, but will it work with Vista 64 and the Neo4-F? If not what would be the simplest way to flash the BIOS?
Thanks in advance,
Jose

Quote from: jose_ramos on 21-May-07, 20:46:03
Hi Chippy, please let me know how you get on.
I will be doing a clean install. All my data is in a second independent HD, so no need to do an upgrade which people say is somewhat troublesome.
One question I have though is that since Vista is on the main HD, when I shift from Neo2 Plat. to Neo4-F, is it possible to keep present installation? Maybe not.
I am not worried about my data. That's no problem and its all backed up anyway. The "problem" is Windows and all of the (100's of) applications I have installed. I could not bear having to reinstall everything again, hence why I will be doing the "upgrade" rather than a clean install.
Chip

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Flashing a Corrupted bios when the alternate bios still works

Now that many motherboards are coming out with a back up bios, many people are asking about how to flash the failed bios. (BIOS A & B)
All you need to do is download the bios you want to flash, then using a fat32 formated usb stick, run the forum bios flashing tool.
>>Use the MSI HQ Forum USB flasher<<
Do not begin this process unless your computer is 100% stable! Many bios failures are due to faulty ram etc, if you corrupt your "good" bios the board is dead!
1.) Remove any overclock you have.
2.) Boot using the working bios, with the memory stick inserted into the usb port.
3.) As soon as the flashing tool screen comes up and you need to input,reach down and switch to the nonworking bios. (DO NOT SWITCH FROM BIO A TO B UNTIL THE FLASHING TOOL HAS LOADED)
4.) Proceed with FLASH.
*This relates and has been tested on all mainboard with a true hardware switch. Z77a-gd80, M-Power, Big Bang X-power, X79a etc)
Note: If you use the above process with a z77a-gd65, it will appear that it has worked. The bios won't ACTUALLY switch unless the system is powered down. IE You will have it set to bio "b" after a power down and flash the bios. You then re-boot and switch to bios "A" and flash. In reality, you have just re-flashed bios "B" and wont see the difference until you actually power down the system. A re-boot will not switch the bios's!
Process for P67, Z68 and z77a-gd65:
Since the P67 & Z68 both have automatic software switches that operate their dual bios's, the process is a bit different.
If you want to flash both bios's or you see the led indicator showing a corrupt bios, you do a normal bios flash with a single extra step.
After a standard bios flash/ you realize one of your bios's are corrupted, enter bios and navigate to the security section and enable multi bios flashing. Save & Exit, and the board handles the rest.
Note: This will NOT work if you want to flash backwards. Multi bios update will flash to the most recent version installed. So if you have the P67 & Z68 make sure you don't flash your backup bios unless you are really sure you like the new one.
In the case of the z77-gd65 you are still able to achieve this, but you must flash your bios, power off the machine, switch the bios switch then flash again.
Z77A-GD65 Update:
In regards to the Z77A-GD65, it appears that the only bios the has a properly working multi bios update is version 10.5.
I would recommend to most of you to flash you bios "B" to this bios for recovery if nessesary. I am sure this will be corrected, but for now this seems to be true.
Also to note, you should always keep your back up bios at the earliest stable bios version so that it is a fail safe. Flashing both bios at the same time is really counter productive.
Thanks
Update: 06/07/2013
All new release mainboards (Z87) with multiple bios's are equipped with a true hardware switch. So the same process to recover a faulty bios remains the same as Z77a-gd80 onward.

When attempting to recover any of the LGA 1150 mainboards.
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Sticky - How to Flash Bios NVidia 64 & Award Bios
Warning Flashing the bios can be bad for your PC's Health
DISCLAIMER:
This is a work-in-progress, not all solutions are "confirmed", use info at your own risk
Not all topics are covered, only stuff that keeps reapering in questions, or are thought to be important.
Before going ahead checkout When and how to update your BIOS
Note: Like reseting CMOS Flashing Bios will clear all any changes you made in bios & will need to be re-entered - see 12) below. So Make sure you remember/ make a note of them.
Resources:-
Floppy Images - Boot Disc.com
Simply insert Floppy & run downloaded Exe file.
Bios Saviour
IOSS Bios Saviour RD1-PMC4
Bios Saviour - RD1 Model Selection Sheet
SST 49LF040A LPC /3.3V - PMC4 For Neo3 250 & Neo4 (Thanks Arioch )
Recovery:-
MSI - Bios Recovery
Syar - Bios Recovery & Checksum Error
BIOS FAQ - How can you recover a corrupt BIOS ?
Bios recovery the dirty
way
Saving MurdoK's Bios - Syar
Offers Reprogramming/Replacement service - Cheaper than new mobo. Can't vouch for non uk service not used them. (1st off search engine)
EU Recoverybios.com
UK BiosflashUK
US Badflash.com
How to Flash MSI Guides.
There are different ways to flash the bios but to keep things simple will concentrate on the MSI Official methods :-
1) Award Flash BIOS Procedure 98/ME
This method assumes access to hd formatted using FAT32 & therefore readable by DOS.
2) Flashing the BIOS for Users using NON FAT file system
For use with Linux based & NTFS File systems - HD Not readable from DOS. Using this procedure the the files are copied to the virtual drive before running the flash utility. So the flash effectively is all done in memory.
This will be the method used by the majority of us. So:-
Follow the instructions in the last link (Thanks Bas)
The details below are additional checks/notes referring to the steps in Bas's guide, which may be useful.
Essential
2) Know Your model number - Is of increased Importance for NEO4 users - We have already seen instances of this.
5-1) Ensure you have a Boot Floppy with CD suport (this creates the Virtual drive used in the process) If you haven't got such
a boot disc see BootrDisc.com link in Rescources.
5-2) B4 booting floppy - Enter Bios & Load Optimised Defaults - To ensure that bios is returned to stock & any overclocking is
turned off.
7) If you miss the ramdrive letter the last DOS message will show your CD drive letter. The Ramdrive is the letter preceeding
the CD Drive. EG CD = D Ramdrive = C
Optional - Gives better control of procedure
11) Use of Switch command options with AWFL833C.EXE /py/sn/wb/cc/cd/cp/r TargetBios.file
Personnaly I use the switches as does Syar :-
Per Syar2003 Iv'e always used :
AWFL833D W7030NMS.xxx /py/sn/wb/cc/cd/cp/r
or
AWFL833D W7030NMS.xxx /py/sn/wb/cc/cd/cp/f/r
And a hard reset with jumper when done .
For a more detailed explanation of switches see :-
Syar's Bios Switch Explained
or Syar's Bios Collection - Flashing.txt
See Also Using a Batch File to Automate bios flash
12) after flash , enter Bios & load optimized defaults , then save + exit with no other change .
That way you have a fresh system with a fresh non problematic dmi-pool and user settings .
After this Enter Bios & Re-enter your custom settings.
From Syar - Which one do I do first?
Thanks to Bas & Syar for the majority of info in this guide

How to Flash Bios NVidia 64 & Award Bios
General:-
How to Flash Bios NVidia 64 & Award Bios
Warning Flashing the bios can be bad for your PC's Health
DISCLAIMER:
This is a work-in-progress, not all solutions are "confirmed", use info at your own risk
Not all topics are covered, only stuff that keeps reapering in questions, or are thought to be important.
Before going ahead checkout When and how to update your BIOS
Note: Like reseting CMOS Flashing Bios will clear all any changes you made in bios & will need to be re-entered - see 12) below. So Make sure you remember/ make a note of them.
FLASH PREPARATION
Always Load Optimised defaults & Save b4 flashing - NEVER FLASH When running an OC or Unstable.
If you need to flash & are worried about stability - run with a single module & test it it memtest 1st.
FLASH METHODS
1) Winflash (Syar2003) -
Winflash is safe to use if your windows and pc is stable .
How to get it Download & install MSI Live Update. Winflash is located "C:\Program Files\MSI\Live Update 3\FlashUty\Award
And as with dos flash reset bios and any overclocking to "load optimized bios default" + save, before and after flashing.
After winflash is finished it ask if you want to reboot - answer no , and shutdown (turn off) windows/pc instead .
After that disconnect the PSU's AC and reset the cmos with the jumper on the board .
This is how I use it , - safest way .
Note ! Place checkmarks on bootblock / dmi area /update all /reset cmos
Using Winflash - Syar2003's GuideWinflash
2) MSI Guides for flashing using a floppy
2 Flavours depending on OS the majority of us use the 2nd as dos floppies can't read a NTDS partition.
2-1) Award Flash BIOS Procedure 98/ME
This method assumes access to hd formatted using FAT32 & therefore readable by DOS.
2-2) Flashing the BIOS for Users using NON FAT file system
For use with Linux based & NTFS File systems - HD Not readable from DOS. Using this procedure the the files are copied to the virtual drive before running the flash utility. So the flash effectively is all done in memory.
2) How to Flash Bios NVidia 64 & Award Bios - More Detail
Resources:-
Floppy Images - Boot Disc.com
Simply insert Floppy & run downloaded Exe file.
Bios Saviour
IOSS Bios Saviour RD1-PMC4
Bios Saviour - RD1 Model Selection Sheet
SST 49LF040A LPC /3.3V - PMC4 For Neo3 250 & Neo4 (Thanks Arioch )
Recovery:-
MSI - Bios Recovery
BIOS FAQ - How can you recover a corrupt BIOS ?
Bios recovery the dirty
way
Saving MurdoK's Bios - Syar
Offers Reprogramming/Replacement service - Cheaper than new mobo. Can't vouch for non uk service not used them. (1st off search engine)
EU Recoverybios.com
UK BiosflashUK
US Badflash.com
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What we need - a guide on how to flash bios, setup bios, and raid

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BIOS Guides pretty complete as far as Neo3 250/Ultra but as none of the pps who have been involved in the stickies have neo4's that chipset is lacking.
Raid Guide
If any1 wants to re-write /update these please feel free to write up the topic as a new thread thread & if popular we can add a link to the thread.
Volunteers welcome

What we need - a guide on how to flash bios, setup bios, and raid

Ok, a topic I see very often on many forums, and several times here, is the following; How to flash bios, how to setup the bios settings, and how to setup the raid array, and then setup the bios to boot from the raid array. Could we perhaps pull our heads togheter and write a detailed guide on these three topics, taking into account how to do it on the most used (commonly written about) MSI boards? and perhaps put as a sticky?
It would help many novice users trying to deal with these problems. I am willing to write on the subject of flashing bios on the MSI K8N SLI Platinum and how to install a Bios Saviour.

Like How to Flash Bios NVidia 64 & Award Bios
Syar2003 has also documented flashing methods in the Bios Collection. *Updated * 7025 1C3 EasyBIOS [r.2] thread
BIOS Guides pretty complete as far as Neo3 250/Ultra but as none of the pps who have been involved in the stickies have neo4's that chipset is lacking.
Raid Guide
If any1 wants to re-write /update these please feel free to write up the topic as a new thread thread & if popular we can add a link to the thread.
Volunteers welcome

GTX 580 Twin Frozr II O/C - confused by bios version number, and how to flash

Hi, my first post here. But I've been reading a bit here. Still, I get confused by this whole vga bios thing, version numbers and how to flash... Ok, so here's my situation:
I have two PC's. Both with one MSI Twin Frozr II O/C GTX 580 card inside. It seems to me that both are working according to specifications, GPU-Z reports:
GPU clock 800 Mhz, Memory 1024 Mhz, Shader 1600 Mhz for the borth of them.
Now, one of them seems not to be totally stable (this is the newest I bought a few days ago). It locks up/crashes in some games. The other seems ok, I've been having that one for a while. Could this be a GPU core voltage problem? GPU-Z reports for the both of them:
VDDC 0.955 v
I've tried running MSI afterburner, changing core voltage to 1025, and in afterburner settings enable "Force constant voltage". Still, GPU-Z, which I keep running at the same time, still reports only 0.955. I thought this setting in Afterburner would change voltage to 1.025? This situation is for both the old one and the new one.
Now to the Bios "problem".
The newest card (the not so stable one) reports through GPU-Z: Bios Version 70.10.20.00.01
The oldest (stable) card: Bios Version 70.10.17.00.01
So... which one has the newest bios? Seems to me it is the newest card.
BUT - when running MSI Live Update 5 (newest version) it says for both the cards that they have the the newest bios version, and there's no need to upgrade??
SO - I go to the MSI webpage: http://no.msi.com/product/vga/N580GTX-Twin-Frozr-II-OC.html#?div=BIOS to download the newest bios manually, just in case.. But there it gets more confusing. The Bios version found there is :NV255MS.104(.zip).
And also, on that page I can not find how to use that file. Extracting it just gives me the file NV255MS.104 and no extension.
So, which bios is the newest one? 70.10.20.00.01 (the highest number, in the new card, but not stable in some games), 70.10.17.00.01 (in my old card, but seems stable in the games I've tried), or NV255.104 (which I don't know how to use).
I've flashed my main board bios many times over the years in various set ups, the bios on two different SSD disks and so on.. never had a problem with that, or finding out if I have the correct bios, how to do it and so on.
Maybe I'm stupid, but this MSI Twin Frozr II O/C GTX 580 bios thing confuses me a lot... So, how do I solve this situation?

I am also interested in the answer as I have 2 MSI N580GTX-M2D15D5/OC cards. I can find the latest BIOS file "NV801MS.KG4.zip" and know the version is "KG4". But how do you relate this to the current BIOS version Afterburner or GPU-Z provides? The version they each provide is "70.10.17.00.01" for both cards. The only other way to determine if they are up to date is to install and run MSI Live Update. MSI Live Update responds that they are up to date with no current version or online version information on the Live Update tab. At least the information on the Home tab states the same VGA BIOS version as GPU-Z and Afterburner. I can can only assume that the BIOS is updated by using MSI Live Update.
Also just for the additional information GPU-Z displays my VDDC as 1.039 briefly then 0.995 constantly when switching between cards. I actually have the cards set to 1.050 with Afterburner to be stable when running Crysis 2 DX11 updates.

How to flash bios using flash drive

how can i put this bios update on a flash drive , "Bios Update for Toshiba satellite l745d-s4230"
Someone from the other forums said that i need to update my bios to fix my problem (stuck on windows is starting)
here's the link in my 1st post "windows 7 stuck on starting windows screen" you can review my problem in that link.

Quote from: servo101 on 25-September-05, 23:44:46
i use winflash all the time. and as jaybee said, its pretty safe as long as you turn off everything (except your PC of course )
and if somehow, the BIOS is corrupt, you can just DL a new one, reflash it and still be okay without ever having to reboot.
I beg to differ. When I had flashed my K8N Neo (7030) board to the now recalled 1.8 bios (in DOS), I tried to flash it to 1.9 beta using Winflash, following the instructions here on the forum to the very last point, and for me Winflash did not work. Not only did it fail to flash, it also failed to flash using several different bioses. So even though I was able to reflash without rebooting, it did not help me since no bios file worked.
My bios was corrupt and I had to order a replacement chip.
There is always the possible hardware fault (bad flash chip), but since it flashed successfully in DOS only a few days before, I see no reason to suspect the hardware.
My recommendation is therefore: *always* *always* *ALWAYS* use DOS when flashing.

Compaq CQ70-127NR How to flash bios when operating system doen't start?

I have a non-working laptop that has an old bios and would like to update to the current f.65 bios. Problem is that it is only able to complete this through operating system according to site. Is there anyway to put this on usb or disk to flash the current bios?
Thanks

Hi schwally4,
Actually with your unit, you can.
Make sure you are holding down both keys when you press power. The info you will need is at the bottom of this document.
Please let me know if this helps.
Good luck!
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How to flash BIOS on suse bundled s series notebooks?

How to flash BIOS on suse bundled s series notebooks?

I have the above unit (I love it!!) with BIOS version 14CN51WW BIOS running UBUNTU9.04 (did not like the SUSE linux supplied. I hate the loud bleep when you remove the power adapter and also have had a few problems with LINUX hanging with the suspend mode - so I thought I might try to update the BIOS to the latest Version: 14CN67WW
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The only other way I have is a Windows XP routine that loads XP into memory and allows a virtual disk - where I could install the BIOS files - but will this work if I flash from here - don't want to screw up the system board
Older IBM's had an executable file that ran from a DOS session and flashed the BIOS
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HOW TO FLASH BIOS

as live update doesn't work wat is the command line to flash the bios with v 1.2 plus is there any beta bios out yet?

You can download the bios and unpack it. The 2 largest files in there are an executable flash utility and the bios image file.
You need to run the flash utility from DOS mode (not a DOS command prompt, a real DOS startup disk/CD).
Have the flash util and bios image on HDD or CD when you flash, don't flash directly from a floppy.

How do I reflash my BIOS?

I have contacted HP customer support previously about this issue. A local PC repair company installed a pirated copy of windows 8 on this PC last year, and HP sent me a set of recovery disks to revert this PC to factory defaults. This has failed every time we have tried it, using different configurations, legacy mode, etc. We have sincre replaced the hard drive ourselves, to no avail. I have been told by a technician that I need to "Reflash the BIOS." I am unsure on how to do this, as I cannot access the computer or even boot it up properly, the operating system fails to boot every time with the error code 0xc0000001, and tells me to"use recovery tools such as installation media," and as I stated earlier, no matter what we do, they will not work, returning me to the exact same screen. How can I Reflash the BIOS when I cannot access this PC beyond the boot menus?

i would flash the bios if i were you. but for the scenario you might want to try the following until you get teh recovery discs to boot:set the bios to default > rebootforce boot thru f9 > boot to the ODD by selecting it under legacy boot device <usually its SATA1 or SATA2>go to bios > to to secure boot options > follow the prompts then disable secured boot and enable legacy boot <this applies to windows8 compatible mobos>force boot thru f9 > boot to the ODD by selecting it under legacy boot device <usually its SATA1 or SATA2> * if you get the loading screen for the recovery manager then your on our way to getting the os reloaded* if not then the unit needs to be picked up for reimaging < you would need to have that check if its avalable thru phone>* if not then you definitely need a set of recovery disc ordered thru 3rdparty sites like computersurgeons*if not then last course of action is to get a retail OS <i hope it doesnt go that far> cheers!

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please help :(
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If you look up some of the 6800 Ultra threads, you will get a list of these problems and the way to sort them, Also it would Really helpful if you could give a list of your computer specs....
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Everyone has this, its just that MSI have not updated there Live update for the card yet!
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Your running Bios 14 which in alot of case the bios is faulty so change to bios 15, look on the forums to where to get this and install it, Also sound like you need to use a program called driver cleaner and reinstall a fresh set of the newest drivers...
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same again, bios change and drivers to resolve this
- d.o.t (dynamic overclocking technology) doesnt work (infact hangs my com)
Bios and drivers again
- doesnt work with some games (doom 3.. monsters are so colourfully scary)
hehe same answer
- sometimes after alt-tabbing, displayed graphics is choppy [fuzzy] (like as if someone sneezed noodles out really hard and it hit the screen, leaving imprints)
i had this to with bios 14, sorted when i got bios 15
- when i finally get to run 3dmark , the score for video card itself is 7000 +
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here are some link on the issues your having
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Hope this help! But do flash you bios... am hoping someone more confident will show you how, as am not confident to give instructions in that kind of stuff..

Unknown Flash type in BIOS K7T turbo

I have tried to flash the my bios with newer version but it seems that it doesn't work out and the message is "Unknown flash type". Before this I already flashed the bios several times using different version until I used the 1.6 B for power bios from MSI then it seems that the bios get trapped couldn't get flashed with other version again. I ' m so desperate to flash my bios with BIOS ver 3.5 for K7T turbo2 but until now I can't get it done, could anyone help me how to solve this problem ?
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Hi!
Happy to hear that you have things running again :D
The recommendation - in one sentence - is actually the way to flash as promoted by Bas and Assaf (moderators) for a long time and it has now found its way to the official website here (so I think you should thank them ) )
About the BIOSes: when you go through the list of available BIOSes, you will see that the earlier versions were issued because there were problems to be solved. after 3.0 or so there will be only some evolution in relation to new hardware (and for those versions - I remember in particular 3.4 some problems were reported).
Version 3.2 has proven its stability for a long time now and, unless you need the updates because - for instance - you have a 160 GB HDD, there is no need to go higher than 3.2 ...
Hope this helps (and: have FUN! :D )
Hans

How to Return to older Bios Version

Its dedicated [ danmarc] but works for all...
who ask for a reflash bios back to older version
@ [S10/S10e Fan Problems Collecting Info for Lenovo] S10 fan runs too fast, too often, too loud]
i dont want to answer direct in the "fan thread" so i do this here:
Because images worth then thousand words here Winphlash:
http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/91w5-ax.jpg
Possibly here the actual Flash select...
http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/91w5-ay.jpg
untick the two hooks here
V flash only if bios is newer
V flash only if bios is different
To return to a flashing "old" version ....
http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/91w5-b0.jpg
Then click OK and go flash the file, which means it the write Bios.bak at first in the folder,
so you have a backup, then the chosen BIOS.wph, then it flashes the file.
rename with the correct names, you can of course ..
Bios.bak to example 142C51WW.WPH ... then you have the old version as a named backup ..
regards KalvinKlein
Message Edited by KalvinKlein on 04-06-2009 02:31 AM
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I just flashed in version 38 to give it a try.
So far everest reports a much cooler temperature(more then 10 degrees) I wonder if its really cooler or was there a change in how the bios reports the temperature?

How do you update the Bios safely when using onboard RAID mirror? Z87-G45

How do you update the Bios safely when using onboard RAID with Z87-G45? I'm using a simple two drive, RAID 1 mirror setup.
I'm currently at bios 1.4, and want to move up. However, last time I upgraded the BIOS, the machine rebooted with improper settings for the RAID (they get hosed during BIOS flash) and Windows decided to auto-repair the only boot drive it could see, one half of the mirror, because it couldn't see the RAID array correctly and *POOF* bare-metal reinstall required.
My PC will not let me press the DEL key on bootup to access the bios, even with MSI Fast Boot not installed. It just ignores the DEL key and tries to load windows which, if that happens, will flame-out my RAID array after a bios flash if I can't catch it to enable the RAID first before windows loads.
I do not want to rebuild my PC again simply because I do a BIOS update.

FYI: BIOS 1.4 & 1.8 are using the same RAID version: 12.7.0.1936
based on this RAID surprise should not hapends.
But as pandaz says if you have no issues, leave bios update alone.
there are still risks something to messed up,
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