How to get isight camera to work in windows live messenger

I'm on macbook using VMWare Fusion software, I have split HD into windows XP and Mac side. I'm trying to connect on windows side with my brother who has PC using the windows live messenger. I can't find out how to get my mac isight camera to work in windows live chat. Anyone know settings on win xp side for making mac built in camera work?
I tried mac side, but mac messenger doesn't have video capabilities!
Tks ahead for help!

I'm on macbook using VMWare Fusion software
Please post questions regarding Fusion on VMWare's own forums, as Apple discussions only provide support for Apple products:
http://communities.vmware.com/community/vmtn/desktop/fusion
I tried mac side, but mac messenger doesn't have video capabilities!''
Download and try aMSN: http://www.amsn-project.net/

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