How to go from multiple chapters ONE timeline to the menu

Recently had to convert a VHS to a DVD, where the file given to me was 1 Mpeg of the entire VHS capture. Not only that, but there were many interstitial segments which they didn`t want shown on the dvd. Last but not least, the order of sections on the VHS was random, whereas the DVD menu was alphabetical.
No matter what I did to the timeline/segments/chapter markers/menu directions, you`d select an item from the menu, it would play the right item from the [start] chapter marker, but then would totally ignore the [end] chapter marker (and it`s [end action] on the timeline and menu), and carry on playing whatever was left on the timeline (including all the stuff I didn`t want to be seen by the viewer).
Yes, I know the best way is to have been given multiple clips, edited the way they wanted them... but we don`t always get what we want, so have to work with what we`re given.
BUT, it IS possible to have people see only the bits you want them to see (selected from the menu) and then send them back to the menu (highlighted on the next item in the menu), from the one timline:
- Import your mpeg as a timeline.
- Add all your chapter markers (one at the start of the section and one at the end). It`s a good idea to name them, so you know where to drag links to later.
- At the [start] chapter marker of a segment in the timeline, select the [end action] and point it to the menu. This is optional, as apparently it ignores this anyway, but I like to make doubly sure of things with Encore :)
- On the menu item for that segment, point the [link] to the [start] chapter marker on the timeline.
All pretty normal so far, but here`s the trick to get it to go where you want it to go, without playing the whole timeline after it`s supposed to have gone back to the menu.
- Still working from the menu, point the [override] for that segment, to the next item on the menu.
- select the imported movie timeline in the 'project' window, and then press the [Set.....] button in the properties window, and change the remote control button`s to 'Custom' and make sure next/previous chapter, and fast-forward/rewind are de-selected. If they`re left selected then no matter what you do, the viewer can ff or next chapter, and they`ll see all the things you don`t want them to see. Leave pause/play and Title/Menu selected.
Hope this is helpful to some of you....
Storm

>Well, it was ignoring the chapter end-actions
Absent overrides or user-induced navigational errors (like setting the end action for chapter 3 when you want the program to return to the menu after chapter 2 plays), I don't see how this is possible.
A chapter end action, properly set, will execute during timeline playback when the chapter
finishes playing. I know this sounds obvious and elementary, but it is a very easy concept to overlook. I am not assuming incompetence, just unfamiliarity. :)
>If you could direct me to some tutorials on how to use Chapter End Playlists and Chapter Playlists to do this I`d appreciate it. I went through the manual and tried it but it didn`t work for me, and could only find people saying 'do things with chapter playlists' without going into detail on how to do it, when I searched the forums
If you can squeeze $17 - $25 into your budget, my book (The Focal Easy Guide to Adobe Encore DVD 2.0) has step-by-step instructions and colorful illustrations on how to set up a Chapter Playlist and how to properly set up Chapter End Actions.
To show my objectivity (and not get booted out of the forum for self-advertising), Adobe has published one of their Classroom in a Book series that covers Encore 2.0. Either way, you should have a reference handy when using complex programs like the ones that are part of the Adobe Production Studio.
-Jeff

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