How to install 10.5 if erased HDD with 10.4?

I wanted to install 10.4 fresh so I erased the HDD with a program I use on my PC all the time to do fresh installs of XP (formats the drive). I stupidly thought the 10.4 disk that came with my mac was a full install. I soon found out that wasn't true. I decided to go buy 10.5 not just for the upgrade but to have a disc to use if I ever needed to reinstall the OS. Well, turns out that doesn't want to install either. The only thing that happens when I put it in is a screen comes up saying there's no bootable device or CD and to press any key when there is one. Pressing anything on the computer doesn't work. I now realize that it's not a full version like I thought it was (I asked the guy at the counter if it would install without 10.4 and he said yes. Now I can't return it because it's software).
Can anyone give me any advice on what to do? I don't have another mac or an iPod so any ideas with those are out of the question. Thanks for reading.

Welcome to the Forum!
It sounds like you bought an upgrade version of Leopard rather than the standard installation disc. Yet, the guy at the counter led you to believe it was the latter. If that has turned out not to be the case take it back and get him to confirm that you have purchased on his advice the wrong disc for your system. I am surprised though as there should be a clear distinction between upgrade and install discs.

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> # sudo apachectl -D WEBSERVICE_ON -D MACOSXSERVER -k restart
> Include /etc/apache2/mydomain/*.conf
I did "sudo mkdir /etc/apache2/mydomain" and add specific config files for various web pages to host. For example, here's a config file that will host the entire contents of an EyeTV DVR, all password controlled with htdigest ("htdigest ~uname/.htdigest EyeTV uname"). Browsing to https://server.domain.com/eyetv points to /Users/uname/Sites/EyeTV, in which there's an index.php script that can read and display the EyeTV archive at https://server.domain.com/eyetv_archive. If you want Apache username accounts with twiddles as in https://server.domain.com/~uname, specify "UserDir Sites" in the configuration file.
Alias /eyetv /Users/uname/Sites/EyeTV
<Directory "/Users/uname/Sites/EyeTV">
    AuthType Digest
    AuthName "EyeTV"
    AuthUserFile /Users/uname/.htdigest
    AuthGroupFile /dev/null
    Require user uname
    Options Indexes MultiViews
    AllowOverride All
    Order allow,deny
    Allow from all
</Directory>
Alias /eyetv_archive "/Volumes/Macintosh HD2/Documents/EyeTV Archive"
<Directory "/Volumes/Macintosh HD2/Documents/EyeTV Archive">
    AuthType Digest
    AuthName "EyeTV"
    AuthUserFile /Users/uname/.htdigest
    AuthGroupFile /dev/null
    Require user uname
    Options Indexes MultiViews
    AllowOverride All
    Order allow,deny
    Allow from all
</Directory>
I think you can turn Web off/on in Server.app to relaunch apached, or simply "sudo apachectl -D WEBSERVICE_ON -D MACOSXSERVER -k restart".
Securely copy to all desired remote clients the file IntermediateCA_SERVER.DOMAIN.COM_1.cer, which you exported from System Keychain above. Add this certificate to your remote keychain and trust it, allowing secure connections between remote clients and your server. Also on remote clients: Firefox>Advanced>Encryption>View Certificates>Authorities>Import...> Import this certificate into your browser. Now there should be a secure connection to https://server.domain.com without any SSL warnings.
One caveat is that there should be a nice way to establish secure SSL to https://domain.com and https://www.domain.com, but the automagically created SSL certificate only knows about server.domain.com. I attempted to follow this advice when I originally created the cert and add these additional domains (under "Subject Alternate Name Extension"), but the cert creation UI failed when I did this, so I just gave up. I hope that by the time these certs expire, someone posts some documentation on how to manage and change Lion Server SSL scripts AFTER the server has been promoted to an Open Directory Master. In the meantime, it would be much appreciated if anyone can post either how to add these additional domain names to the existing cert, or generate and/or sign a cert with a self-created Keychain Access root certificate authority. In my experience, any attempt to mess with the SSL certs automatically generated just breaks Lion Server.
Finally, if you don't want a little Apple logo as your web page icon, create your own 16×16 PNG and copy it to the file /Library/Server/Web/Data/Sites/Default/favicon.ico. And request that all web-crawling robots go away with the file /Library/Server/Web/Data/Sites/Default/robots.txt:
User-agent: *
Disallow: /
Misc
VNC easily works with iOS devices -- use a good passphrase. Edit /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/org.postgresql.postgres.plist and set "listen_addresses=127.0.0.1" to allow PostgreSQL connections over localhost. I've also downloaded snort/base/swatch to build an intrusion detection system, and used Macports's squid+privoxy to build a privacy-enhanced ad-blocking proxy server.

Privacy Enhancing Filtering Proxy and SSH Tunnel
Lion Server comes with its own web proxy, but chaining Squid and Privoxy together provides a capable and effective web proxy that can block ads and malicious scripts, and conceal information used to track you around the web. I've posted a simple way to build and use a privacy enhancing web proxy here. While you're at it, configure your OS and browsers to block Adobe Flash cookies and block Flash access to your camera, microphone, and peer networks. Read this WSJ article series to understand how this impacts your privacy. If you configure it to allow use for anyone on your LAN, be sure to open up ports 3128, 8118, and 8123 on your firewall.
If you've set up ssh and/or VPN as above, you can securely tunnel in to your proxy from anywhere. The syntax for ssh tunnels is a little obscure, so I wrote a little ssh tunnel script with a simpler flexible syntax. This script also allows secure tunnels to other services like VNC (port 5900). If you save this to a file ./ssht (and chmod a+x ./ssht), example syntax to establish an ssh tunnel through localhost:8080 (or, e.g., localhost:5901 for secure VNC Screen Sharing connects) looks like:
$ ./ssht 8080:[email protected]:3128
$ ./ssht 8080:alice@:
$ ./ssht 8080:
$ ./ssht 8018::8123
$ ./ssht 5901::5900 [Use the address localhost:5901 for secure VNC connects using OS X's Screen Sharing or Chicken of the VNC (sudo port install cotvnc)]
$ vi ./ssht
#!/bin/sh
# SSH tunnel to squid/whatever proxy: ssht [-p ssh_port] [localhost_port:][user_name@][ip_address][:remotehost][:remote_port]
USERNAME_DEFAULT=username
HOSTNAME_DEFAULT=domain.com
SSHPORT_DEFAULT=22
# SSH port forwarding specs, e.g. 8080:localhost:3128
LOCALHOSTPORT_DEFAULT=8080      # Default is http proxy 8080
REMOTEHOST_DEFAULT=localhost    # Default is localhost
REMOTEPORT_DEFAULT=3128         # Default is Squid port
# Parse ssh port and tunnel details if specified
SSHPORT=$SSHPORT_DEFAULT
TUNNEL_DETAILS=$LOCALHOSTPORT_DEFAULT:$USERNAME_DEFAULT@$HOSTNAME_DEFAULT:$REMOT EHOST_DEFAULT:$REMOTEPORT_DEFAULT
while [ "$1" != "" ]
do
case $1
in
    -p) shift;                  # -p option
        SSHPORT=$1;
        shift;;
     *) TUNNEL_DETAILS=$1;      # 1st argument option
        shift;;
esac
done
# Get local and remote ports, username, and hostname from the command line argument: localhost_port:user_name@ip_address:remote_host:remote_port
shopt -s extglob                        # needed for +(pattern) syntax; man sh
LOCALHOSTPORT=$LOCALHOSTPORT_DEFAULT
USERNAME=$USERNAME_DEFAULT
HOSTNAME=$HOSTNAME_DEFAULT
REMOTEHOST=$REMOTEHOST_DEFAULT
REMOTEPORT=$REMOTEPORT_DEFAULT
# LOCALHOSTPORT
CDR=${TUNNEL_DETAILS#+([0-9]):}         # delete shortest leading +([0-9]):
CAR=${TUNNEL_DETAILS%%$CDR}             # cut this string from TUNNEL_DETAILS
CAR=${CAR%:}                            # delete :
if [ "$CAR" != "" ]                     # leading or trailing port specified
then
    LOCALHOSTPORT=$CAR
fi
TUNNEL_DETAILS=$CDR
# REMOTEPORT
CDR=${TUNNEL_DETAILS%:+([0-9])}         # delete shortest trailing :+([0-9])
CAR=${TUNNEL_DETAILS##$CDR}             # cut this string from TUNNEL_DETAILS
CAR=${CAR#:}                            # delete :
if [ "$CAR" != "" ]                     # leading or trailing port specified
then
    REMOTEPORT=$CAR
fi
TUNNEL_DETAILS=$CDR
# REMOTEHOST
CDR=${TUNNEL_DETAILS%:*}                # delete shortest trailing :*
CAR=${TUNNEL_DETAILS##$CDR}             # cut this string from TUNNEL_DETAILS
CAR=${CAR#:}                            # delete :
if [ "$CAR" != "" ]                     # leading or trailing port specified
then
    REMOTEHOST=$CAR
fi
TUNNEL_DETAILS=$CDR
# USERNAME
CDR=${TUNNEL_DETAILS#*@}                # delete shortest leading +([0-9]):
CAR=${TUNNEL_DETAILS%%$CDR}             # cut this string from TUNNEL_DETAILS
CAR=${CAR%@}                            # delete @
if [ "$CAR" != "" ]                     # leading or trailing port specified
then
    USERNAME=$CAR
fi
TUNNEL_DETAILS=$CDR
# HOSTNAME
HOSTNAME=$TUNNEL_DETAILS
if [ "$HOSTNAME" == "" ]                # no hostname given
then
    HOSTNAME=$HOSTNAME_DEFAULT
fi
ssh -p $SSHPORT -L $LOCALHOSTPORT:$REMOTEHOST:$REMOTEPORT -l $USERNAME $HOSTNAME -f -C -q -N \
    && echo "SSH tunnel established via $LOCALHOSTPORT:$REMOTEHOST:$REMOTEPORT\n\tto $USERNAME@$HOSTNAME:$SSHPORT." \
    || echo "SSH tunnel FAIL."

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