How To Install Classic?

How do I install Classic on my iBook G4 (1Ghz)? I already have 10.4.10 installed. I have the Mac OS X Tiger Install DVD, but cannot find Classic to install.
I booted from the DVD, but there were no options to install Classic. Is Classic not available for Tiger? That would really be a major problem, because I have thousands of files that I need to acces, and cannot get to otherwise .... !!
Help!! Thanks.

What type of files are you wanting to access? I ask this because I don't know of many older files types that can't be opened by OS X applications, including Appleworks. Almost every commercial app was moved to OS X long ago and are capable of opening their respective file types.
You also need to know that new Macs don't support OS 9 Classic at all. So if you ever buy a new Mac you'll need to convert those files anyway.
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A. Boot from an external FW drive in target disk mode and then use a standalone OS 9 installer (which she does have) to get Classic on the eMac;
B. Clone the entire hard drive to an external drive and then run the 4 eMac Software Restore discs, update to the latest version of Tiger, and then add back all her additional installed apps and utilities, etc.
1) Am I correct in assuming that method A would, in fact, work?
More importantly, though, can anyone suggest a simpler way to install OS 9 on this machine which would not involve using an external drive? It's so frustrating that the Software Restore disc is bootable (whereas the standalone OS 9 installer disc is not!)...yet there is no apparent way to access just the OS 9 installer on these Restore discs and to run just that installer and not have to reformat the entire drive.
2) Any bright ideas on a relatively simple workaround would be greatly appreciated!
Additionally, it is unknown whether or not OS 9 drivers have been installed on this eMac. I assume, though, that if they had not been installed, then an OS 9 installation would balk and not go through. It would be worth taking that chance, though, as the worst that could happen is that OS 9 would not install. Then there would be no other option but to do a full erase and install from the Restore Discs.
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Your initial post notes that OS X 10.4 is installed but 10.1.4 is on the actual restore discs that you have. My recollection is that Apple switched from 10.1.4 to 10.2 late in the production run of the 700 MHz model eMac (specificaly, they upgraded two weeks after I bought my 700 MHz eMac), so a 800 MHz model should have shipped with OS X 10.2, not 10.1.4. There are significant differences in the Restore disc sets between the different OS X versions. In any case it's clear that the discs you have do not include a retail Tiger install disc. You'll eventually want to pick up the retail black-lable Tiger 10.4 Install DVD in case it's ever necessary to reinstall the OS (if the eMac is one that doesn't have a DVD-ROM or DVD-RW drive, the Tiger DVD can still be exchanged for a set of CDs for a nominal fee).
From your later posts, it appears that you do have a separate OS 9 install CD but that the emac won't boot from that OS 9 disc. It rather sounds as if the disc set you have is actually from an earlier 700 MHz eMac model. Open System Profiler and check the video hardware; if it shows ATI graphics rather than nVidia graphics, you definitely have the wrong set of discs. While there's no online link for this, you can call the Apple Store and ask about purchasing a replacement set of discs for the Mac model you actually have (have the info from eMac: How to locate the serial number and identify your model handy if you call).
The OS 9 installation method you need depends on the set of restore disks and the original OS X version that was provided with those discs. Since you have 10.4 installed on a 800 MHz eMac, you'd nominally start with Mac OS X 10.4: Restoring applications from a Mac OS X 10.2 Software Restore disc rather than the older Using Restore Discs with Mac OS X 10.2 through 10.3.3. Unfortunately, reinstalling Classic following that guide does invovlve erasing the HD, which you want to avoid.
Given the discs you do have is for 10.1.4, you can check the later part of Using Apple Software Restore to install or reinstall parts without erasing (Mac OS X 10.1.5 or earlier) for the steps on how to install parts without erasing. However, if I'm picturing the correct set of Restore discs that you have in hand (there have been enogh different sets of resstore and install discs to make that a royally confusing morass), OS 9 is not on the Restore disc set in versions prior to OS X 10.2; rather, there should be a separate OS 9 Install CD in the set of discs that came with OS X 10.1.4 Macs.
Under the circumstances, unless you acquire the correct Restore discs for that model eMac, your best chance of getting Classic installed would on first thought be to take up Chopsuey's suggestion about dragging the OS 9 System Folder from the OS 9 Install CD onto the eMac's HD, then try to use that to get a hobbled form of Classic open well enough to use Tome Viewer to extract the full OS 9 System onto the HD. Although the OS 9 CD you have from a OS X 10.1.4 disc set would be for an nVidia graphics eMac and your appears to be an ATI model, the actual graphics hardware is driven by OS X, so having the wrong graphics drivers in OS 9 may or may not actually limit Classsic to running in a 640x480 pixel window.
I'm pretty sure you'd find it easier to call the Apple Store for the correct set of Restore discs for that model.
Installing the OS 9 drivers on the hard drive is required to boot the nVidia graphic model eMacs into OS 9 from the HD but is not required to use the OS 9 System Folder to run Classic. Later ATI graphics eMacs won't boot into OS 9 regardless of whether or not the drivers are installed on the hard drive. Either way, if you only want to run Classic, you don't need to reformat the drive to install the OS 9 drivers (nor search for the Terminal hack to put OS 9 drivers onto an already-formatted HD).

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That is often an effective solution, when OS 9 is available on another drive or machine, and all that is needed is the availability of Classic.
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during the MacOS X 10.4.3 installation process
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daniel Azuelos wrote:
Charles Dyer wrote:
daniel Azuelos wrote:
I have recently installed a MacOS X 10.4.3 on an iMac DV,
and upgraded it successfully to 10.4.10.
I was carefull to partition my disk including the OS9 drivers
during the MacOS X 10.4.3 installation process
(through Disk Utility).
I have a MacOS 9.1 install CD.
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my disk.
That's unusual.
How may I install Classic on my MacOS 10.4.10?
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Is this OS 9.1 CD either a generic (white) CD or the CD which shipped with the iMac?
I can't tell if its a generic or specific one, because I always
bought any new version of the system. Nothing specifying which
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See a brody's user tip "Restoring Mac OS 9 on a bootable Mac".
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Hello All,
I have been extremely annoyed the past few weeks trying to find out how to install Classic OS 9 on my iBook G4 (PowerPC processor).
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The Classic files for your PowerBook G4 are on the original install DVD that came with it.
A Panther (10.3.x) install set of DVD/CDs most probably?
Anyway, insert this original install disc, and look for "Classic Support" installer, something like that.
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Some original installations came through a first step of installing an additional software installer (example my iMac G4).
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Proceed to install Classic.
Here too, it'll get installed without modifying your OS (whether it is the original one or your newly installed Tiger).
Have fun!
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