How to make a backup without password

I have tried to create new backups, but every time as they are with a lock on. have deleted itunes on pc n without help. bought a new computer without help. my problem is that I have two girls who have switched phones, the mobile phone that owned the first desired content into the new. Now that it has acquired the old iphone ready and ruin the iphone and I wish to make a backup of it on the new iphone her but each time the backup is locked with a code. there is none of them have made some code!!!!!! only code code they have had is a code to open the phone. we have gone in between all the codes they have used but there is no acting. I've talked with apple suport on several occasions and they say that it is only making a backup without code.
So my question is how the **** do I do it?

You will have to delete ALL of your existing backups. Under preferences in itunes(under the edit menu if using Windows), Devices, delet any and all backups that are listed. Connect your 3GS, right click in the device pane & select backup. You should be able to restore that backup to your iphone 4.

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