How to partition HD in order to load the rescue and recovery backup

HI All,
Can anyone tell me how to properly partition the HD in order for the Blue Button(thinkVantage) to work again?
Does it matter in the order how you create the partition...? (I create one partition then separate them via Partition Manager)
I load the image back via Norton Ghost v10... but the Rescue and Recovery section is not responding... I remember the section is created as (EISA system) as it is reported by Disk Manger (not extended or logical type)
Please help here...
thanks

One work-around that I have used successfully when I had an Acronis image but no R&R image is to do a full restore to factory using the factory recovery media (from Lenovo or home made on the TP) and then restoring only the windows partition from the non-Lenovo image. This should leave the service partition, the MBR, and track 0 in the Lenovo mystery mode, and let the think button work, and you get your cloned up-to-date OS.
I should add that in one of my experiments w/multi-booting and fiddling partitions, after using this procedure with Vista on my T400, vista wouldn't boot. It required a bootable vista DVD to run the vista boot repair procedure (twice). After that, "think" and vista booted as expected. I don't know of any way to do that with Lenovo install media. If no MS Vista DVD is available, there are stripped down versions with the repair stuff only floating around the web. The usual precautions re downloads apply. There may be manual ways to repair the vista boot stuff that I haven't found yet.
I can't say with certainty that this will always be necessary. I may have screwed something up during the two step restore process.
The magic "think" button is (potentially) pretty useful, but it and the "new improved" vista boot process are a little too fragile, IMNSHO.
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Hi everyone,
I've just recently became a new owner of a T61, and really enjoying it. I haven't had a chance yet to test-drive the lenovo phone support, as I have not yet screwed anything up that bad that required their help. I did try a clean factory reinstall from the service partition and it worked great. I would like to find out, how does one use the rescue and recovery startup disc, and the product recovery discs that I created myself? From my previous experience with Dell and HP, I only had to insert the first one and restart the computer, and the rest followed. But with ThinkPads, if I ever wanted to bring it to a clean factory state using those discs, do I use rescue and recovery first, followed by the product recovery? I'm curious, what is the difference between the two?
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There is no diff between the two... One is on the Hard Drive and the other on CD/DVD.
Having the HDD version (pre-installed) is a good for trouble shooting. It uses a whole diff O/S on a whole diff partition (not C.
So if you are having problems and boot to RnR (via F11), and those problems go away. you know your issue is software related. If you still have the same problems probly Hardware related... IT IS AN EFFECTIVE WAY TO TAKE WINDOWS OUT OF THE PROBLEM.
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Thanks. All this makes perfect sense to me, but that's not what I'm asking for. My question is this: if I wanted to bring my notebook to its factory shipped condition using my recovery cd's, how do I do that? Do I insert cd1 first and then restart the notebook, or do I just insert it without restarting it, or perhaps I should use first the rescue and recovery?
You said that there is no difference between the two, but what two are you talking about man? I am not comparing cd recovery to partition recovery. I am talking about rescue and recovery cd, with system recovery cd's. These are the two things that I'm talking about.
I'm really grateful for all replies, but please people, read the question first !!!
I would really appreciate if someone could explain the steps involved in performing a clean factory recovery, using the cd's, and not the recovery partition. I just want to know for the future, in case one day I have to do it. That is all I'm asking.
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Hi Danielle,
Consider this allegory; factory settings will make your thinkpad like a never driven 0 meter car [with reference to software]. Hence it will be far-flung from it's previous state. Apart from what you have already saved on memory stick, all settings and the software you have installed on the notebook will be lost.
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Im am aware about former posts to this subject on this forum, but they didn't answer all my questions, so I reopened the subject.
I tried to install "Rescue and Recovery" on T60 with win XP Pro and got the following message:
'There is not enough free space in the boot sector to install the Rescue and Recovery boot manager'
I followed the solution in "Rescue and Recovery installation fails") from 08-09-2008 03:03 AM
and created a hidden partition with Parted Magic but the rescue and recovery still fails with the same message.
Somewhere in the forum I read that the original service partition has a special format and not ntfs.
Could somebody tell me is it true or not ?
How can I rebuild this service partition ?
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Actually I'm wondering to, about the error message. It is saying '"..There is not enough free space in the boot sector ..." .
Is it possible that the boot sector is the problem and not the service partition ?
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Thanks in advance if somebody helps.

I have a 4-year-old ThinkPad R51. Because I was getting intermittent boot-up error messages--"Rescue and Recovery has encountered a problem and needs to close"--with ver. 4.0, I tried to upgrade to ver. 4.2. Per instructions, I first removed ver. 4.0 using Windows Control Panel. Then each attempt to install 4.2 failed with the message: "Error 25025. There is not enough free space on the computer to install or upgrade the Rescue and Recovery environment." Just before that error message popped up in center-screen, I got a Windows message at lower right saying "You are running out of space on SERVICEV001 (Z:}" Of course, there was no way I could view partition Z (that I knew of).
Thanks to the helpful messages above, I downloaded Parted Magic (http://partedmagic.com), burned a boot CD per its instructions, and re-booted with that CD. Using GParted, I saw that my SERVICEV001 partition was merely 590 MB, and 587 MB was in use. So I reduced my C partition by 500 MB and added 500 MB to the Z partition, raising it to 1090 MB. Then I was able to re-boot into Windows and the installation of Rescue and Recovery 4.2 was error-free.
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How to install Rescue and Recovery 4.21 on Windows 2003

There should be a good amount of users running Windows 2003 on their thinkpad for various reasons. As much as I tried, I could not get Rescue and Recovery's MSI to install on my X61 running Win2003 R2 SP2, despite attempts to modify the Setup.ini file.
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This is such a shame as I'm pretty sure RR would run just fine on win2003 as both WinXP and win2003 are based on the same underlying technologies and code. Please advice if there's any method such as a command switch for MSI installer to suppress OS detection error or any modification that can be made to setup.ini to get it to install on win2003 or any utility that can be used to modify MSI files and database? Thanks!
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Message Edited by Xseriesfanboy on 08-31-2008 08:30 PM
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Alrighty..I've manage to google a hack to this problem of getting Rescue and Recovery to install on Windows 2003. So let this post be a guide to how to get this done:
Getting the tools to modify Rescue and Recovery MSI (Windows Installer)
Download and install Orca MSI editor from http://astebner.sts.winisp.net/Tools/Orca.zip
Review http://ravi1337.blogspot.com/2007/05/orca-msi-editor-make-any-software.html, this guide should give you a good idea what you'll be doing with this tool.
Download Rescue and Recovery™ 4.21 from Lenovo
Download Rescue and Recovery™ 4.21 for Windows XP (32-bit) or Windows 2000 from http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/license.do?filename=thinkvantage_en/z652_setup_rnr42_016c...
Ensure you are downloading full install with all language pack to avoid any missing installation file due to regional settings
Run the installer and see that all files are extracted accordingly.
Modification of Rescue and Recovery Installer
Delete all files in C:\Documents and Settings\(User Account Name)\Local Settings\Temp\ this will prevent confusion on which files are unpacked and created by RR installer
Extract z652_setup_rnr42_016c.exe into a folder named z652_setup_rnr42_016c.
Execute tvtrnr42.exe
The MSI installer is then unpacked to the following default directory: C:\Documents and Settings\(User Account Name)\Local Settings\Temp\. Note that the installer creates two directories for installation of RR, that are {F151F2B3-0C32-44D3-90E2-E639B8024622} and _isXXXX <--- 4 randomly generated digits
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On the first run of the installer, the following error will be shown "The current operating system is not supported for running Rescue and Recovery. Supported operating systems includes Microsoft Windows 2000 with Service Pack 3 or Windows XP with Service Pack 1 or later". DO NOT CLICK OK! This is cause the installer to purge all installation files and related directories in the temp directory. Just leave the error window as it is without clicking the OK button!
Copy all TVT files from folder z652_setup_rnr42_016c into both directories
Modify setup.ini entry for Win2003Server with notepad and save changes:
[Win2003Server]
MajorVer=5
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BuildNo=3790
PlatformId=2
Right-click on Rescue and Recovery.msi and edit with Orca
Go to LaunchCondition Table
Drop the following rows and save changes:
(((VersionNT=501 AND ServicePackLevel>=1)OR (VersionNT=500 AND ServicePackLevel>=3)) AND WINSERVER=0) OR Installed- The current operating system is not supported for running [ProductName]. Supported operating systems include Microsoft(R) Windows(R) 2000 with Service Pack 3 or later and Windows XP with Service Pack 1 or later.
IEEXISTS=1 OR Installed - [ProductName] requires Microsoft(R) Internet Explorer version 5.5 or higher. You cannot install the Rescue and Recovery program without this version of Internet Explorer.
INCOMPAPPNAME=0 OR Installed - [INCOMPAPPNAME] is installed and is incompatible with this version of [ProductName]. This application cannot be installed. To install [ProductName], uninstall [INCOMPAPPNAME] and then restart this setup.
Not SGEWRONGVERSION OR Installed - [INCOMPAPPNAME] is installed and is incompatible with this version of [ProductName]. This application cannot be installed. To install [ProductName], uninstall [INCOMPAPPNAME] and then restart this setup.
When you're done with these modification, re-run Rescue and Recovery.msi without closing the previous error window. Rescue and Recovery should now install without any glitch! Good Luck!
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Rescue and Recovery - how can I move backups to another location

I would like to move ma backups from an external drive to other drive. I don't want to make a new full backup but I want to have access to all the previous backups but I just want to use some other external drive. I can't find an option in the Rescue and Recovery Software. Can I just copy the files to the new drive? I am afraid that there would be an error when I try to recover from the backup if I just copy them. Anyone ever tried to copy the backups and then recover from it?

I believe you should not have a problem. The \RRbackups is a "flat" file, geometry not a factor. If the backup external went from basic, to EFI, that might present problems.
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Added support on the computer that is installed with more than one hard disk drive. <release notes. Boring, it has support 2nd hdd for years.
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(3) Try a single file restore.
(4) Take a incremental backup to new external.
(5) 10 minutes later, try a FULL restore from item 4.
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Hello to everyone viewing this forum. I'm from the Philippines, and this is my first time posting in the forums. I bought my Lenovo 3000 N100 Notebook from Singapore, and it's over a year old now.
Well, we all know that the built-in ThinkVantage Rescue and Recovery program gives us a last resort when our laptops fail, and we all know that the hard drive partition where it resides is in a partition that is hidden, right? Well here's my problem..
I encountered a Windows problem which made me use a borrowed Windows operating system disk to repair it (via Windows startup repair), as although I have created recovery media already, I still want to back-up my data before that. Now after I have gone through the Windows Startup Repair service, and when I logged on, I was surprised to see the supposed to be hidden partition now appearing in My Computer! And as if that's not enough, when I try to boot Rescue and Recovery via the Lenovo Care button, it doesn't work anymore! Neither can I make Rescue and Recovery medium (Create Rescue Media on the Internal Hard drive) as it gives the following error:
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And when I try to make Rescue Media on a CD/DVD:
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I would like to ask all you kind people here for your help with this issue.
I'm considering backing up all files I need via the Rescue and Recovery workspace, but since I can't access R&R I'm considering manually backing up the files I need via external storage devices, and my another question is that would my Product Recovery disks still work even though I can't access the R&R partition? This is my reserve plan in case I won't be able to fix the issue about the not-so-hidden partition, and I wouldn't want to lose my factory install reserves in that case...
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Backups and restores will still work. The risk is if something happens to your hard drive, then you would lose the backups as well. For this reason it's a much better idea to store your backups somewhere else, such as USB hard drive or network.

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