How to prevent project bloat?

I just had a premiere project blow up and become unusable. It can't open and I can't salvage it through after effects. So I'm back tracking to attempt to re-create the work because I have no other choice.
There's a lot of advice on how to save projects, and there's some vague advice about avoiding warp stabilizer and autosave, to avoid this problem but I have plenty of projects that do not chronically bloat which do use both of those features. So I'm trying to figure out if there's a definitive answer on this. Right now, I've gone back to an earlier autosave, exported an XML, and revived an old version of the project. One editor has been having no problems with bloating after that, I on the other hand work on the same project and the bloating begins again. The only difference is that I have been rendering the footage before watching in real time because its RED footage and doesn't play smoothly if I have any effects on the clips like layers and opacity.
The only other thing I've done out of the ordinary is set my air-display to apple TV as a mirrored desktrop while I was working. Has anyone found some definitive answers on what exactly causes the bloat and how to stop it with new projects?

HOW you quit iMovie 5 controls whether or not iMovie automatically opens the last-opened project when you launch iMovie.
The trick is to close the current project (press the red button in the upper left corner of the window) before quitting iMovie. That opens the "whatdoyouwantadonow?" window. Quit iMovie from there.
This doesn't work for iMovie 6, which always opens the last-opened project.
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Here are the FB posts I have got about this issue. I tried to paste them neatly but didn't work.
To be honest I am baffled that such an advanced NLE has so many issues. There should be a warning about the Warp Stabilizer messing up a project I had no idea till now.
This was my question to a PP user group on FB.
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Your project size is slowing you down. Create a couple of projects, each containing a part of the footage. Organized in bins as needed. Call them footage projects. Create an other project named edit and cut in there. Use the media browser to browse the footage projects. Import what you need and use search bins to keep it organized.
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I had the exact same experience cutting a 90 min feature with 120 hours of Pro Res 4444 footage. Long save times are caused by project bloat, either by having too many assets loaded or a lot of warp stabilizer effects applied. Transcoding will only affect playback performance and exports - it doesn't sound like it's the problem in this case.
only some codecs (4K GoPro, 6K R3D, lengthy h264/AVCHD clips for example) benefit from transcoding and will be snappier and playback smoother. But transcoding will never ever help the loading or saving time of your project
Don't apply warp stabilizsr to everything. All those coordinates get stored in project file
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some of the ftg is in need of stabilization so I did use the warp stabilizer but not excessively. 15 x 3-10 second clips. Is there a way of managing the storage of the coordinates too minimize the hit on the project size?
nope. Try importing existing project into a new project.
I usually stabilize footage in a separate project to avoid huge project files, and export the stabilized result. Then I use the stabilized version in the main project.
I also work with Nested Sequences a lot. Working in short, manageable timelines. When opening a large project, Premiere will find the footage for the active sequence first, so I can start working quickly, while Premiere is still finding the rest of the footage.
Could do your warp stabilizing in AE and export renders of them, then import those renders into your project so the are just media files instead of files with stabilizer tracking points.

I usually stabilize footage in a separate project to avoid huge project files, and export the stabilized result. Then I use the stabilized version in the main project.
That would be something like the advice I would have given
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Save heavy duty FX application until after you have locked down your edit. (eg Blurs , Warp, 3rd party FX(MB)
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Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 8:45 am Post subject: How to prevent a file from stripping?
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