How to re-read metadata from file in Photoshop Elements 11 Organizer?

I am currently testing Lightroom 4 and Photoshop Elements 11 as a replacement for my old softwarestack due to a new DSLR.
In Lightroom I can read and write metadata directly from/to file. In Photoshop Elements Organizer I have found an option to write tags to files, but none to re-read the metadata after the files has been imported to the catalog.
I would like to use Lightroom as primary organizer for import/tagging/basic corrections. But Lightroom does not have some nifty things like face/person recognition and SmartTags, so I need the Photoshop Elements Organizer to do that. The target workflow would be:
DSLR -> Import to -> Lightroom -> tagging -> basic corrections -> write tags to file in Lightroom -> import to PSE organizer -> person recognition -> smart tags -> image edits -> write tags to files in PSE organizer ==> tags can now be re-read in Lightroom, so I get the PSE organizer changes to Lightroom.
And that is the problem: If changes were made after this workflow in Lightroom, PSE Organizer does not know that until I can re-read the metadata from the files. If I press "write tags to file" in PSE organizer all newer Lightroom tags will be overwritten with the old tags from PSE organizer.
Does anyone knows a solution for this problem? Or should I file a feature request for both programs?

You can now do a lot more in the metadata panel in PSE 11. If you select a thumbnail in Organizer and click the three small dots it will bring up a dialog for the metadata fields. To add information to many photos all at once, select all the thumbnails, click the information tab and then click the button marked Add IPTC information. You can then choose to append new information to all of the selected items or to overwrite.
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I wonder if Lightroom 3 offers a function that lets me read metadata from file for multiple images in a batch process. The reason is that I have changed the GPS information for quite a couple of my pics using the Geoencoding Support pluging from Jeffrey Friedl and let it write back into the DNG-file. Since I also flushed the shadow data I can't see any GPS information in my metadata table in Lightrrom even though the data are present in the DNG. Now the real question is: Is there a better way to get my GPS data into Lightroom than emptying the Library and reimport all of my pics?
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