How to recover/refresh the discovery system if system crashed.

Hi,
Can someone tell me how to recover the Discovery Sysm if the system crashed? Any recovery image from HP? Does regular full system backup is good enough for recovery the whole system (Java + ABAP)? Thanks for your help.
James

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i'm sorry that this answer took this long, but i think a constructive answer which takes a long time is better than a useless answer in a short time....
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