How to set-up a DUAL BAND wireless network.

Lots of people are reporting problems caused by replacing an existing wireless network with the new Airport Extreme 802.11n base station.
* Xbox360 compatibility.
* Airtunes issues
* 802.11n slowed down by 802.11g devices
One workaround is to set-up a dual-band network. Your old 802.11g base station looks after the older "g" devices. And the new Airport Extreme looks after the 802.11n devices.
There are a number of benefits to this solution.
* Everything that did work, carries on working. No reconfiguring needed.
* Everything works at its fastest possible speed. You can use the full 270Mb 5Ghz band for n devices.
* 802.11g traffic does not interfere with 802.11n traffic at all.
* It's easy to set up.
The downside is
* There are two boxes. I want one.
This is the diagram (again)
Note that in this configuration, the new Airport Extreme base station is set-up in Bridging Mode.
Glyn

I've done some testing and here are my findings:
- 2 Computers, 1 C2D N enabled and iMac G only in 2 diff rooms
- 2 AX to stream music
- Transfer of a 446 Mb avi file from Airdisk to C2D
- 2 Wifi Networks: 1) G only from a Netopia 2) Depending from settings from AE(n), Both Base Station are placed aside. When G network is available both AX are connected.
- With or No airtunes means a stream to the 2 AX from iMac while transferring the 446 Mb file to the C2D.
446 MB / AE(n) 5 Ghz N / No Airtunes / Netopia Off / 2:47
446 MB / AE(n) 2.4 Ghz N Only / Auto Ch / No Airtunes / Netopia Off / 2:13
446 MB / AE(n) 5 Ghz N / No Airtunes / Netopia On / 3:14
446 MB / AE(n) 5 Ghz N / With Airtunes / Netopia On / 3:20
446 MB / AE(n) 2.4 Ghz N Only / Auto Ch/ No Airtunes / Netopia On / 2:29
446 MB / AE(n) 2.4 Ghz N Only / Auto Ch / With Airt / Netopia On / Unusable
446 MB / AE(n) 2.4 Ghz Mixed / Auto Ch / No Airtunes / Netopia Off / 2:17
446 MB / AE(n) 2.4 Ghz Mixed / Auto Ch / With Airtunes / Netopia Off / 3:03
Here are the findings:
- Without any G network (meaning no Airtunes possible) the 2.4 Ghz N Only performs much better than the 5 Ghz N
- While streaming Music the 2.4 Ghz Mixed performs better then the 5 Ghz N (Dual Band Network)!
These are my findings with my settings, it could be different, but I'm pretty sure you will find the same behavior on your side. And BTW, the theoretical thru-put means nothing, only real life usage testing is worth something. So on my side I'm going for a single mixed network.
Hope this sheds light for some of you.
Micha

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