How to setup for Creative Sound Blaster Audigi2 ZS connect to MIDI port of Yam

Hi all!
I just buy Audigi2 ZS and want to connect MIDI port to MIDI port of my YAMAHA keyboard. But when use Adobe Audition v2.0 and editting so I cannot connect and tranfering my data to YAMAHA and revert. Some body can help me fix this problem. Thanks you very much.

Just FYI.
I probably overestimated RHEL/OEL-5.3 capability to "compete in Music Showbiz" as a digital studio workstation OS. Seems that "very old" alsa kernel drivers (1.0.17), compiled with actual kernel, don't like Audigy cards when it comes to MIDI interface, despite the fact the audio is perfect. Although I am still not sure nothing could be done as a workaround in order to get MIDI worked on OEL-5.3, the fact is that SB Audigy MIDI works like Roland Synth, sounding amazingly, if the kernel 2.6.18-128.1.1.0.1.el5 is recompiled with the actual alsa driver version 1.0.19 (modules snd-emu10k1, snd-emu10k1-synth, etc).
It's interesting that overall device and loaded-modules schema's picture is the same as with old alsa (original kernel). That's why I still think something could be done, at least as workaround, to get MIDI worked with original OEL-5.3 kernel.
NJ

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Take a good long look at that picture. Think about how many songs have been played through those devices, think of how many movies have been heard through those devices, think of how many games made me jump out of my seat from sound effects heard through those devices, and lastly think how many thousands of hours this amounts to.
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Creative's device drivers and software has always been a point of contention. You don't make the install discs available for download on your website for starters. This is a fascist move on your part. Your driver installation procedure and reliability is hit or miss. I personally have not had a lot of trouble with the drivers (only a few hiccups here and there) but i have read on the forums where all sorts of other people have (I'm not in disagreeing that their problems are partially their fault, but that's the price of running Windows instead of buying a Mac). My experience with your driver software suites over the years have been mostly (A) "When it works as expected it's sheer aural bliss beyond that of any other sound card in existence! THIS is why 'Sound Blaster Compatible' was what other companies put on their products, because Creative set the standard for everyone else to meet." but also sometimes (B) "everything installed and worked fine but now something is corrupt and not all the speakers have sound coming from them or the sound is all screwed up and the driver won't uninstall/reinstall/update correctly because it's corrupt and it's not deleting the driver files because windows has the files locked and safe mode isn't helping so now i have to physically remove the card from the PC and try to completely clean out my system of the Creative software. I can't believe they went after Daniel_K the way they did, i wish he'd come back and fix their drivers. Now which box did i put that install cd in...."
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Being that I've worked from home for about a decade now I will listen to music while I work and get in an hour or so of gaming at night as time allows. Straight off the bat the first time i ticked that box for CMSS 3D long long ago and heard music coming from every speaker in my home office i was amazed and overwhelmed. Then when you introduced the ability to set the individual speaker distance and volume from the listening position it was the icing on the cake. I was surround by sound. It was SHEER AURAL BLISS. This feature called CMSS 3D would become the second reason I purchased and recommended Creative sound cards for the decade to come.
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Chances are what i've written above is perhaps an opening soliloquy of the requiem for the Creative Sound Blaster, the card that defined an industry and the company that turned it's back on it. I don't expect anything to come from this letter and I don't expect a meaningful reply from you. You'll probably write me justifying your decisions you've made with your product line and offer some false sincerity about how you are happy i am enjoying my price-gouged discontinued soundcard i had to buy off e-bay because your current line of products are not a step back in your eyes because of the profits they turn. This generation of customers who buy your Platinum HD, or Reco3D or Z-series line of cards probably oblivious to what they are missing out on (through no fault of their own), funny how the bliss of ignorance works and lines your pockets...
It saddens me that i had to buy a discontinued product off e-bay because it's a better product than what your company currently offers. I wish this wasn't the way things turned out. When you dropped the fun presets and finite control of the EAX effects during the transition from the Audigy to the X-Fi line of cards I noticed but since they were not the main reason I owned a Creative card I tolerated it. But now you've gone and ruined the features that were the reasons i bought Creative cards, and this I will not oblige.
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@To the OP:
I own a X-Fi Elite Pro for the past 8 years now.
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I'm currently at a point where, very sadly, much of what you've described is also weighing on my decision to not go for a Z line.
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