How to stream audio w/o connecting AX as gateway?
Have been struggling with this one for a while – would appreciate any help you might offer.
I have my MAC connected to my university network from my room. The Univ is fairly strict with network things and so will not allow students to run wireless networks (otherwise I'd happily plug in my Airport Express as the internet gateway and connect my Powerbook through that – we have to give our IT dept the MAC address of our computers and we get assigned a fixed IP address).
All I want to do is use the AX to play iTunes audio through my stereo. Is there some sort of "standalone" mode for AX that allows me to use it just as a receiver of the audio stream from iTunes? I keep getting the dreaded blinking amber light since it's looking for a network. Seems like there must be a way...
Thanks in advance
PowerBook G4 Mac OS X (10.4.9)
"Is there some sort of "standalone" mode for AX that allows me to use it just as a receiver of the audio stream from iTunes?"
Welcome to Discussions, rnorum!
Yes, but that's still setting up a network between your Mac and your Express/stereo connection. Your AirPort Express does have its own MAC address - its AirPort ID. Every wireless device has a MAC address, even non-Macs have one. If the Univ is fairly strict and maintains the integrity of its network, they'll be able to easily discover any network you setup.
If you turn on your AirPort and look in your menu bar's AirPort icon and can see no other networks, then it's safe to assume you shouldn't try this - as others will be able to easily discover it. If instead you can see that everyone else has an iTunes network, then ask around to see if they just did it, or went through the proper procedure.
Assuming that you've already cleared the Express's old profiles by resetting to factory default
[refer to the last section "How to perform a factory default reset" on this page: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=108044 ]
you should see the Express's default name (Apple Network ____) in your menu bar's AirPort icon. If you've already connected your stereo to the Express with the proper audio cabling, use the utility "AirPort Setup Assistant" to setup that network. It's wise to give the connection its own name rather than to leave it set on the default network name. The Assistant should see your Express's stereo connection, if not, try again, don't continue on and setup a bogus internet connection. If you do that, you'll just have to again reset the Express:)
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