How to tell page security model?

10.1.4.
I couldn't find any API calls or officially supported views that tell you whether a page inherits its security from a template, from the root page, or from its parent.
Are there any?
If not, any behind-the-scenes lookups I can do?
-John

Possibly a quicker solution: plug her serial number into the online service assistant and it should tell you the resulting model.
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From: David Wilton 07-Oct-05 01:08
Subject: How to tell embedded jinitator applet is still running when window closed
How to tell embedded jinitator applet is still running when window closed
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Subject: Re : How to tell embedded jinitator applet is still running when window closed
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Subject: Re : How to tell embedded jinitator applet is still running when window closed
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Subject: Re : How to tell embedded jinitator applet is still running when window closed
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2. In the forms app. if the user clicks the windows "X" close button with uncommitted changes. The browser just closes the changes are rollback without prompting the user to save. The users sessions are now lost and still running in the database and application server until they are timed out.
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From: Oracle, Evelene Raechel 10-Oct-05 06:45
Subject: Re : How to tell embedded jinitator applet is still running when window closed
Hi,
Note.199928.1 How to Alert User on Closing Client's Browser Window in Webforms
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From: David Wilton 11-Oct-05 17:40
Subject: Re : How to tell embedded jinitator applet is still running when window closed
I'm sorry this is not helpful at all.
Note 199928.1 is only an alert which does not stop the closing of the window and still displays as an alert if the user does close properly using exit form ... so why would you want to display the alert then?
This is exaclty what I do not want and why I want to determine if the applet is still running before displaying any kind of message.
David
From: Oracle, Evelene Raechel 17-Oct-05 12:23
Subject: Re : How to tell embedded jinitator applet is still running when window closed
Closing thread.
Thanks,

Hello,
I had the same issue last year - wanting to provide a warning on closing the browser, but only if the Forms session is still running. The approach I took is described below, see also the thread where I originally posted this at Closing brower window
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