Hows this K8T Neo overclock?

Hi guys. Got my K8T Neo + 3200 A64 stable @ 211mhz cas 2-3-3-6 (twinmos 3200).
Is this a decent overclock or should I expect more? And why does bios lock up when I change fsb from 200 to 201 but clockgen is prime stable @ 211mhz?

I'm extremely disappointed in my overclock as well.  k8t-neo FISR2 w/ ath64 3200+ 1mb version, corsair pc3200 xms 512+256.  The ran runs fine 5-2-2-2 2.7 at 210fsb not locked to 400mem, but anything higher won't run stable in windows t all.  I get automatic system reboots when loading into windows at anything over 210, even with mem timings relaxed and locked to 400.  Cpu voltage at 1.5, 1.55 didn't help.  Default cooler 45c MAX under load, so it's definitely not a cooling problem as I've got extremely nice airflow in my full tower antec case.  Looks like the chipset is extremely limited, but I was hoping to hit 2.2 since every review of ath64 boards seemed to do that much  

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  • I can't handle any more problems with this K8t NEO

    Hi all, I am new to the forum.
    I will honestly say I have tried to read allot of posts before I spoke up but....
    I have:
    K8t NEO
    3200 64
    Updated to the latest BIOS
    Corsair Overclocking RAM (I am looking up the specs)
    256 sick on slot 1
    256 stick on slot 3
    A new PS....something like:
    3.3v 40
    5v 38
    12v 24 (the local CS gave me a hard time saying I DO NOT NEED such a big PS)
    Maxtor 40 gig ATA133
    NVIDIA 5600 256
    and dwindling patience.
    anyhoo, I have had one problem after another trying to get this system to work.
    It took 3 hours to find that you cant run 3 sticks of ram.
    The manual is the worst one I have ever seen. and there is no phone number to be found to talk to tech support.
    I am not getting anywhere with the email "support" from MSI....a DAY to get an abreviated answer that does not answer the specific question. It may be a viable system if they get more staff.
    One question...why does the screen "push any key to boot from CD" get "missed"
    and two.... I cannot install the OS. It will scopy all of its files and on reboot, i get a messasge about not finding the boot info or something...and to insert a floppy.
    I gave up and ran a preloaded HD and it worked for a day until during a recording session, It crashed and when it rebooted it says it cant find any boot info...I should of wrote down the message.
    Now What??
    I have tried:
    A different HD cable
    HD jumper settings (Slave / Master)
    I tried a low level format.
    3 different HDs
    Bought the new PS.
    I hope I do not have to send this thing in...I dont have hardly any free time. (does anyone?) IF it is needing replaced...do I deal with MSI or the Hindus (zboysz) I bought this Mobo from? I have nothing against Hindus but I CANNOT understand ANYTHING they are saying to me.
    Sorry for venting here.
    Can anyone can help?
    TIA,
    ~Wizzie

    Hey Wizzie
    Although I have bought stuff from Tiger Direct ...If I were you instead of fooling around with RMA-ing more defective/incompatable  RAM why not get the RAM modules that are indeed compatable with this mobo .........
    http://memoryx.net/gn512pc3200.html
    I just got 2 -- 512MB Nanya PC3200 CL2.5 184pin DDR400 DIMM from them and they are indeed top of the line. And at $ 110.00 U.S. per module I don't think that you will find a better deal. Not to mention that Nanya is indeed from MSI's - ASUS- ect "neck of the woods"
    more info:
    Memory X offers this Nanya Original 512MB PC3200 DDR 400 184 Pin Memory module. This Nanya memory is the highest quality available on the market.
    512MB Nanya PC3200 CL2.5 184pin DDR400 DIMM
    Nanya is a world leading manufacturer of memory modules.
    512MB 184p PC3200 16c 32x8 DDR DIMM.
    Backwards compatible with DDR200, DDR266 and DDR333
    Manufactured by Nanya
    New, Lifetime warranty
    Compatible with ABIT IC7-G Motherboard, AOpen AX4C Max/ Ax4C-G Motherboards, Biostar P4TCA Pro Motherboard, ChainTech 9CJS ZENITH, Dell Dimension 8300 (800MHz Front Side Bus), XPS (P4, 2.80GHz, 800MHz FSB), XPS (P4, 3GHz, 800MHz FSB), XPS (P4, 3.30GHz, 800MHz FSB), DFI LANPARTY PRO875, Epox EP-4PCA3+ Motherboard, FIC P4-875 MAX Motherboard, Gigabyte GA-8lK1100 Motherboard, GA-8KNXP/GA-8KNXP Ultra Motherboards, Intel D875PBZ Motherboard, MAXDATA Favorit 3000 (i865), 4000 (i865), 5000 (i865), MPC/Micron ClientPro 345 Series, ClientPro 545 Series, Millennia 920i Series, MiTAC P410CX Motherboard. MSI 875P Neo/ 875P Neo-LSR/875P Neo-FIS2R (MS-6758), SOYO SY-P4I875P DRAGON 2, Packard Bell - ixtreme 6080, ixtreme 6110, Tyan Computers Trinity i875P (S5101).
    Cheers!
    Saphire

  • MSI K8t NEO + Audigy Boot Problem only when power is unplugged on the PSU

    I ran into a really weird problem today.
    I switched the ps off by reaching back and pressing the button. I repress the button to power on the ps, then I click on the button in the fron of the case to power up the machine. System keeps rebooting itself every 1 sec. Bracket shows 4 red lights. In the manual, it says it means bad cpu. I remove the audigy and it boots fine. I install the audigy, 4 red lights.
    So, This time instead of turning the puter off by using the button on ps. I used the button on the case by holding it down for 5 seconds. I reboot and puter boots normally.
    So the problem is, if i turn the puter off by using the button on the PS and with audigy in the syste. Nothing on screen, and puter keeps rebooting itself every one second. Solution is to turn the puter off by using the button on the case.
    Has anyone ran into this problem? I have never had this kind of problem. It is really weird. Any feedback is apreciated.
    Oh and it is only with audigy. I tested this with original live, and also other PCI cards like nic, and another cheap sound card. Non of these cards showed this problem.

    Cavemankr!
    I never knew you could shut down the computer by holding down the start button for 5 seconds.... well I've never really had the need to...until I got this K8T Neo job. I wondered why it wouldn't turn off when I just pushed it. I've been using the PSU switch with these problems.
    Yep! She booted right up. Audigy back in action. I also realized I had my PC hooked straight in the wall (while checking to see if my surge protector was working this weekend), so turning off the surge protector wasn't cutting power to the cheapo PSU.
    So put me in your camp!
    I'll just plug the PC straight into the UPS and keep power fed to the Enermax. I hope that was the cause of my keyboard/mouse cold boot problem also.
    I'll assume the cheapo PSU will behave similarly. I don't really want to go through the swap again.  
    I wonder why that happens!
    Buddy
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  • K8T Neo dynamic overclocking

    I'd like to try out this interesting dynamic overclocking
    thing on my new K8T Neo (MS-6702). It seems thousands of
    users have figured out how to do this, but I guess I must
    be dumber than them all. I keep reading the only section
    I see in the manual about DOT (shown below). It implies
    one can enable and disable it, but it gives me no clue how.
    Apparently it is disabled on my system, since when I run
    CoreCell, it always displays 2000 or 2001 MHz, no matter
    what programs are running no matter how intensive the
    computations. I've downloaded all the utilities with live
    update, but nothing in them seems to relate to DOT.
    In CoreCell I've left and right clicked on damn near
    everything. I still see no reference to DOT. I've even read
    all the FAQs to no avail. Can someone point this lost poor
    sole in the right direction? I've sent my question to MSI
    tech support, but they don't seem fit to answer.
    Dynamic Overclocking Technology is the automatic overclocking
    function. It is designed to detect the load balance of CPU
    while running programs, and to adjust the best CPU frequency
    automatically. When the motherboard detects CPU is running
    programs, it will speed up CPU automatically to make the program
    run smoothly and faster. When the CPU is temporarily suspending
    or staying in the low load balance, it will restore the default
    settings instead. Usually the Dynamic Overclocking Technology
    will be powered only when users' PC need to run huge amount
    of data like 3D games or the video process, and the CPU frequency
    need to be boosted up to enhance the overall performance.
    MSI Reminds You...
    Even though the Dynamic Overclocking Technology is more stable than
    manual overclocking, basically, it is still risky. We suggest user
    to make sure that your CPU can afford to overclocking regularly first.
    If you find the PC appears to be unstable or reboot incidentally,
    it's better to disable the Dynamic Overclocking or to lower the
    level of overclocking options. By the way, if you need to conduct
    overclocking manually, you also need to disable the Dynamic
    OverClocking first.

    You need to enable it in the BIOS under Frequency(?) I'm not exactly sure what the menu is called, I'm at work
    I'm pretty sure it's the top right menu screen in BIOS

  • K8T Neo-FIS2R Disable Overclocking Completely!

    ok so this is really startin to pee me off
    ive got the latest BIOS for my K8T Neo-FIS2R (2.22 i think it is) and it seems to have no way to turn off the Dynamic Overclocking Technology (DOT) crap.
    I have disabled cool n quiet, spread specturm and dynamic overclocking yet when my computer loads i have core centre loaded at startup, when i fire off a heavy app (something java'ish usually does the trick) the processor speed whacks itself up to anywhere from 3000-8000mhz and then drops back down to the lovely 2200mhz which it should be running at (its and Athlon64 3400+ chip) problem being i dont want it to do this - i want a stable system and this is causing me major headaches as there are short periods where it seems to almost freeze as the processor is changing from one speed to another
    anyone any ideas on how to totally disable DOT before i ditch it and go back to a P4
    thanks
    ste

    Check your BIOS revision with live update or watch the screen on boot up.  Are you really using 2.22 or 2.18?  If you are, try a BIOS version that isn't beta.  Beta versions all end with a digit in the hundredths place, you should go for 2.0 as the jury is still out on 2.1 and 2.2.  Get it here  I'm currently stable at 1.9.  Also, I'm still using Corecenter v1.6.0.0.  I found that all of the newer ones (as of 6 months ago) caused a hiccup on speed changes and actually caused a little performance hit.  If you want the old version of Corecenter I have, PM me and I'll email it to you if you can't find it elsewhere.

  • K8t neo fis2r overclocking

    I am hoping i can get some sort of overclock out of this board.  I know without the agp/pci lock it will be limited. But I was wondering if anyone out there has any input on what i might be able to expect before I get too crazy with it.  I planned on using the Dynamic overclocking but I dont know whether I will get results with that.  Any help is appreciated.
    I am currently running:
    Athlon 64 3000+
    MSI K8T Neo FIS2R
    1GB Mushkin LVL II pci 3500
    connect3d radeon 9800 pro 128 mb
    2x western digital raptor 36gb in raid 0
    420W Power Supply

    Malenfant:
    Didn't do anything special, I just worked up to that point increasing in steps of 5.  Wish I could give you a suggestion, but it just worked.  stays cool also under a 100% load 24/7 (foldin) I run temps of 38 to 40
    Join the MSI FOLDING TEAM............Please we can use the help

  • How to install a fresh copy of windows xp with sp2 on a msi k8t neo

    My specifications:
    CPU: AMD ATHLON 64 - 3000MHZ
    MOTHERBOARD: MSI K8T NEO
    RAM: CRUCIAL MICRON 1024MB DDR
    HDD: WD 120GB ( C: 60GB, D: 60GB )
    HDD: SEAGATE 4GB ( E: 4GB )
    DVD: NEC 3520
    CD: SONY
    The system is on drive C:
    primary master HDD 4GB ( on drive E: )
    primary slave NONE
    secondary master CDR DVD-RW
    secondary slave CDR SONY
    and last HDD 120GB on primary raid ( on drive C: and D: )
    NONE on secondary
    I have 2 floppy disks: on the first one it says G72-PRSA060, Promise 376/378 Driver, Disk 1 of 1
    on the second one it says G72-VASA040, VIA SATA RAID Driver, For VT6420/VT8237, Disk 1 of 1
    Can please someone tell me how to install a fresh copy of windows xp on my computer from scratch? All I know that I have to press F6 at some time and insert one of the disks but I don't know which one. And I don't know when to insert a second disk.
    Thanks for helping me

    Yeah.  I remember when I had that board.  I found the best SATA ports were the Promise ones, but...
    What do you think, Tiresmoke?  You had the same board too if I'm not mistaken.

  • How to use a DVD with IDE3 slots on K8T Neo

    I saw IDE3 slots on "K8T Neo" mainboard but in BIOS have no Third IDE setup. I really need to use DVD drive.
    Thank you for your answer.

    This IDE port is controlled by Promise 20378, you can't connect optical drive there. Its only for HDD's

  • My Unofficial K8t Neo Guide

    Disclaimer: You try any and all troubleshooting at YOUR OWN RISK!!
    Here is my unofficial guide to the K8t Neo fisr2 If you Like It give it a thumbs up so it will stick out. I will warn you it is long and I will edit off and on.
    to add as needed.
    first I'll start off with components,
    CASE..you will need an atx case with good cooling a few extra fans like a blowhole at the top can help cooling, also bundle cables and power leads
    so that they don't interfere with airflow.
    MOTHERBOARD,...This is based on the K8TNEO series, when you attach it to your case make sure that is is mounted to risers to keep it from contacting case, they are usually small brass pins, also make sure that all the mounting screw are secure and in place, this will prevent the PCB from flexing and cracking as you install components, there should be around 9 or so screws, that usually go into the riser pins or raised case mounting points,don't forget to use those fiber or plastic insulated washers. These should be the only case contact point to the mobo other then the back plate with all the usb, net jacks etc..
    Also use all of the mount points you can..if not you can crack mobo putting in cards etc...
    CPU...Athlon64 processor2800+, 3000+, 3200+, or a 3400+, all 754 pin chips...k8neo CAN NOT USE FX chips or Opterons. 3200,&3000 are basically the same chip, same clockspeed of 2.0 ghz but the l2 cache is different 3200 1mb...3000 512k, you may not notice the difference in many applications but will see 2~10% diff in benchmark testing, the 3000 is usually about $75 cheaper
    the 2800 is a newer model an a good way to get into 64bit without high cost.
    PSU.... one of the most overlooked and most important component,
    that old 300 watter you have from your old duron 800 don't even try.PSU's have caused a lot of trouble with a64 systems, they use a lot of power Get a good name brand psu if you can, and make sure it is at least 400 watts and has at the minimum of 20a on 12v, also look at combined total wattage
    the psu must have a 20 pin connector and a 4  Pin( Square) Connector, and there is Only 1, Called the+12V 4 Pin Processor Connector.
    some of the recommended brands are enermax,and antec.
    Here is the reason most problems are the psu
    amd64 uses 12v power, Intel chips used a lot of 5v power.
    so until now most big psu's pushed 5 v not 12v
    almost everything in your computer uses 12v except ram (3.3V)
    AMD 64 and motherboard =12a @12V
    so your already at 12A with no fan,s no hd, no CD,no DVD ,no mobo chip-set , no mem, no sound..etc  
    so what happens is your mem gets starved for power and then gives out errors,in your data, which = corrupt sata,or it fails to post. .
    MEMMORY...Another big trouble spot,not just with the MSI board but with Via chip-set, and or the A64 memory controller.
    DDR non ecc- single channel 400 is baseline although slower chips also work, The CPU's memory unit only supports 4 banks total so in order to use three sockets at least two of the memory sticks have to be 1 bank,.one bank or two bank chips look similar so check specs, dual bank chips usually have chips on the back as well. mem should match type and speed. if you run into problems try going into bios and limiting ram to 333.mem should match type and speed.
    (edited out till i find more info [STRIKEOUT] if using two mem sticks it is best to use slots 1 and 3,[/STRIKEOUT])
    edit :ok tiresmoke just replied so have a look. "One thing that often does not get addressed. I had a couple Blue Screens early on. Here is how I fixed it. I run my RAM in sockets 1 and 3. 1 and 2 gave a little instability.Yes I decided to keep mine in slot 1/3 but I did test in 1/2 since I changed Bios. Typically slot 1/3 can slow you down but it did not with mine so best to say that difference RAM will give different symptoms. Try combinations to find what works best for you."
    LOL Keep in mind that Jocko uses 3 sticks of dual bank RAM and according to AMD they only support 4 banks total. Jocko has 6 so you do the math.
    you can check msi's website for compatible ram, but be careful it can be confusing,
    they list by part numbers,
    but some known configurations that work are:
    I would stay away from corsair xms mem right now many people have problems.
    corsair and kingston owners may want to look here
    AMD 3000+ systems...
    BIOS 1.2
    2 x 512 - Corsair CMX DDR400 @2-3-2-5
    2 x 512 - Corsair Twin Pro DDR400 @ 2-3-2-6
    2 x 512 - Corsair Value Select DDR400 @ defaults
    1 x 512 - Geil Golden Dragon DDR400 @ 2-3-3-6 (2.7V)
    2 x 512 - Hynix DDR400 @ 2-3-3-6
    2 x 512 - Kingmax DDR433 @ 2.5-3-3-6
    2 x 512 - Kingston DDR400 @ 3-3-3-8
    1 x 512 - Kingston HyperX DDR400 @ (defaults?)
    1 x 512 - Kingston ValueRam (KVR400X64C3A) DDR400? @ (Defaults?)
    2 x 512 - Muskin Level 1 DDR400 @ 2-3-2-6
    2 x 512 - Muskin Level 2 DDR433 @ (defaults?)
    2 x 256 + 1 x 512 - Muskin Basic DDR400 @ 2.5-3-3-8
    1 x 1024 - OCZ EL DDR400 @ 2-3-2-6
    BIOS 1.3b2
    2 x 512 OCZ EL DDR433 @ 2-3-3-7
    AMD 3200+ systems...
    BIOS 1.1
    2 x 512 - Mushkin Level 1 Black DDR433 @ 2.5-3-3-6
    BIOS 1.2
    2 x 512 - Apacer DDR400 @ 3-4-4-8 (2.5v)
    2 x 512 - Corsair Twin X DDR400 @ 2-3-2-6
    1 x 1024 - Corsair TwinX DDR400 @ 2-3-2-6
    2 x 512 - Crucial DDR400 @ defaults
    2 x 512 - Elixer OEM DDR400 @ defaults
    1 x 1024 - GeIL GoldenDragon DDR400? @ defaults
    2 x 512 - Geil Value Series 512MB DDR 2.5-3-3-6
    2 x 512 - Hynix DDR400 @ 2-3-3-6
    2 x 512 - Kingston HyperX KX DDR433 @ 2-3-3-8
    2 x 512 - Kingston HyperX DDR400 @ (defaults?)
    2 x 512 - Kingston HyperX DDR400 @ 2.5-3-3-8
    2 x 512 - Mushkin Level 2 DDR400 @ 2-2-2-5 (2.75V)
    2 x 256 - Mushkin Level 2 DDR400 @ 2-2-2-5
    2 x 256 + 1 x 512 - Muskin Basic DDR400 @ (defaults?)
    2 x 512 - Twinx CLPRO DDR400 @ (defaults?)
    2x512- Pny Verto DDR433 @defualts
    AMD 3400+ systems...
    BIOS 1.2
    2 x 512 - Kingmax (MPXC22D-38KT3R) DDR400 @ defaults
    2 x 512 - Mushkin Level 2 Black DDR433 @ 2-3-2-5
    you may have to email you mem manufacturer and manually set timings and voltages to get your memory working.
    HARD DRIVES......Here you have alot of choices, basically two categories, SATA and PATA(IDE). There are many brands and speeds, IDE drives come in different speeds, such as ata33, ata66, ata 100, ata 133 for hard drives, the 33,100,133, being theoretical maximum transfer rating MB/sec.
    newer ata(IDE)hard drives are ata100 which is ultra 5, and ata133 ,ultra6 is ,
    PIO mode is the standard data transfer mode without the ultra enhancements, the fastest being 16.66 mb/sec. ultra 2 is 33 mb/sec . So when i say my CD,DVD, and DVD are ultra 2 it means they transfer at a maximum of 33 mb/sec, and my Maxtor hardrives are ultra 6 and have a maximum transfer of133 mb/sec. my old zip100 transfers at a max of 16 mb/sec since its in pio mode. Note these are maximum speeds, my hardrive transfers more like 65 mb/sec sustained according to SIS Sandra.
    That is why SATA 150 is such a big deal, vs say a Western digital ata100
    SATA is a different interface all together and can transfers closer to its maximum
    theoretical speed. BUT the pci bus itself is limited to 133 mb/sec so an add-on card
    should never be able to reach over 133, regardless, of SCSI,IDE, or SATA
    so on the k8t neo you have some choices. With the IDE you can use, IDE1,2, or 3
    IDE1&2 are ata100. ) to attach use a 80pin round or flat cable, the first slot goes into the mobo, the middle connector is for a slave or should be left empty, use the end for master, or single drive. you must also setup jumpers for hd or cds.
    The master is primary unit and the slave is secondary unit, for each channel.
    Or use the Cable Select jumper and USUALLY the BIOS will select the drive for you.
    IDE1 & 2 is ata100, or 133 depending on board if using for only 2 drives put them on different channels
    ...ie master on IDE 1, and master on IDE 2 . that way they will have maximum bandwidth. especially for disk to disk copies or burning
    IDE3 RAID is ata133, or can be raid 0 or 1 by the promise chip. 0 being striped for performance,1 being mirrored for safety, mirror only protects hd from failure,not viruses,or corruption for that you need a backup or as i prefer a drive image program such as accronis trueimage..linux compatible.and Norton ghost.you will first have to enable the promise chip in the bios, then you have to load drivers by hitting F6 during windows installation, and insert floppy drive, yes you will need a floppy, at least for initial setup. If you want to set up raid you will have to do that first before loading windows,by hitting ctrl+F  (read quick user's guide Serial ata raid, serial ata) only hd's can use ide3.If you don't have enough IDE slots you can add on pci card with one or two more headers for up to 4 more drives, I added a Maxtor ultra ata133, since i have 5 idehd's and 3 DVD/cds.
    SATA, here you have two choices, use the Promise chip set or the Via. Either one or both can be set to raid0 or 1, see users guide to setup, You will also have to enable them first in bios, and F6 and load floppy drivers to use in windows install, or load drivers in windows if using an existing install. either chip-set can be set for raid, in the manual, opinions are that the Via is faster, but you wont have a HD LED activity indicator light, The promise will have a HD light, but is slightly slower.
    Also note that SATAs don't OC as well as IDE hard drives, they can even crash and loose data.
    always make a backup of your computer, and remember raid 1 does nothing for virus, or contaminated installs.
    SOUND....Here you have a few choices, On board or Card, unfortunately not both, yet.(UPDATE Bios Version 1.5 and above will fix this)... If using a card there have been some issues with Audigy 1 cards, but there may be a cure in this threadhttps://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threadid=46849&sid=( Moved to stickies) audigy2 and 2zs cards work fine as do turtle beach.
    on-board sound is not as high definition and uses some CPU cycles, so a card might be advantageous to gamers.
    REALTEK GIGABIT...Is the on-board Ethernet, you will need to load drivers once in windows, it has caused some problems booting, as it can be set to a boot device as well. you will get a message "failed to boot press any key."..then "ntdlr error"...to fix this you may need to hit the key combination during boot to set it up, it will bring you to a menu, you need to set boot order, i recommend setting it to bios, and you can adjust or disable message and time length it is displayed.
    VIDEO CARDS-  You should install an agp 8x directx9 video card for best performance. Ati has better directx support so is better for gaming, but Nvida has better OpenGL so if you want to do 3d in Linux, you have better luck with Nvida.
    When you set up windows, install via 4-1 drivers first, then the video drivers, check video manufacturer's website for updated drivers. make sure any extra power leads are plugged in. In bios Agp should be  fast write enabled, and
    if you are using 1024 of ram aperture size to 256, but check 3dmark to see which setting is faster.
    BIOS- NO BIOS INSTALLED This is a message that you see during boot up from the promise on-board raid saying that it found no drives attached to its SATA or IDE channels so it's not installed the BIOS.This IS NOT a problem or anything to worry about!
    jumping Bios reset jumper, be careful, make sure power is off.  jump it and return it to the original position. If you power on with jumper in reset position you can erase your bios...requiring a Return to Manufacturer Authorization(RMA)
    I have had no problems using windows updating to the latest bios ,It cured some issues, such as firewire ports, sound blaster audigy1 troubles,tweaked temps displayed,and so on. but be sure to have a backup of original bios disk. I have heard new 1.8 beta bios cures Newcastle temp problems.
    some good settings are.. SMART enabled this will warn you of hard disk failure,System bios cacheble and shadow ram are more for older computers and should be set to disable.boot to os2- disable...memory setting vary by card and some even need to be set manually so check with manufacturer or get familiar with cmos reset jumper.(just be sure to have power off)...plug and play os to disable(more of a win 98 thing) disable serials and parallel ports if you don't need them, as with on-board sound firewire etc. this is just a few pointers the rest is a more personal thing, but i have heard turbo setting causes problems and is best left to fast, and dynamic oc'ing is similar use at your own risk
    USB keyboard don't forget to enable USB in the BIOS. This caused some problems when installing XP. Without USB enabled in BIOS when you come to the "Hit any key to proceed" the install will fail with the ntldr error
    POWER SAVINGS...Having trouble getting fans or case lights to shut off on standby set to S3, then disable apm, and be sure to set a wakeup event..such as wake from usb, or keyboard command. I have agp boot disable, but depends on card.
    Want to know more about bios, and what those settings are? click this link
    http://www.rojakpot.com/(eb1mg5zatgcf5r55lv5no155)/default.aspx?location=9
    CORE CENTER....Another personal choice, I like it and use it a lot, to increase and decrease fsb without going through bios. the NB fan sensor should read 0 unless you plug a fan onto it, personally i have an 80mm antec and it doesn't read it, but i tried a old CPU fan and it worked fine.
    COOL AND QUIET Another personal choice, I don't use it because some people have had there CPUs power down in the middle of games, and such
    (it goes down to 800 MHz) others had small bugs in there system that went away when they disabled it. But some like it and use it a lot. Good for energy savings.
    want to get your boot time down
    start by selecting  OS drive as first in boot sequence, you can always change bios when you want to boot from floppy or CD(which isn't often).disable floppy drive seek
    then clean out your startup folder under rt click explore start button.
    try and get services set to auto down to about 25. defrag your hdrive routinely,
    . ditch wall paper, and get rid of windows startup screen.(msconfig,boot.ini.and check noguiboot). keep your drivers updated
    if you can find it you can use then try bootvis, but microsoft doesn't support it anymore.Programs ..some useful free utilities are listed below, check goggle, until i make links for them.
    SiS Sandrahttp://www.sisoftware.net/, a good all around benchmark,burn in and, info display
    3DMARK.http://www.futuremark.com/download/.Mostly a Video tester, good for checking OC though.
    Microsoft Memory testerms memtester
    +86memtest.http://www.memtest86.com/..and Prime95http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft.htmvery good mem testers, and tests for stability
    spybot search and destroy, http://www.safer-networking.org/index.php?page=homeand
    Lavasoft's ad-aware http://www.lavasoftusa.comgot to have for house cleaning.
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    [STRIKEOUT]mbm5 mbm5 link good alternative temp readings to corecenter.[/STRIKEOUT]
    good program but discontinued.
    OTHER USEFUL PROGRAMS
    Norton utilities, good all around disk and OS utility
    Norton Internet secuirity, or similar firewall and virus protector
    Norton ghost, or other drive image software fantastic for backups
    BF1942...lol just fun
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    Trouble shooting
    for total no boot/post failure
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    revision
    A: when you first install your motherboard make sure it does not contact case,
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    when you installed your CPU you:
    1 ___you properly handle equipment so no static damage can occur, (properly grounded)
    2____.you fully lift the CPU ziff socket arm up, orient the gold triangle marking arrow,pins and it easily dropped into socket, with no bent pins ,
    3 ___ backer plate mounted carefully no missing pieces of the board flying off, ( i have seen people launch capacitors, and the like )
    4 ____obviously you removed the plastic thermal pad cover, and heatsink was evenly locked down, and fully seated, and correctly plugged into mobo cpufan1.
    and you fully removed old thermal pad/grease and applied new artic silver, or new heatsink with plastic on pad,you didn't reuse old paste or pad.
    memory
    5 _____memory stick(not sticks, at this point you just want to get it working, not full blast with a gig of ram etc)is fully seated and properly oriented in slot, and is 184 pin ddr non-registered , non ecc ram , and you have tried different non corsair, non twinmoss, brands that have been known to work. and/ or
    tried to set manually mem speed/voltage for some models of corsair, twinmoss, and kingston)
    6.____ plug in only power switch pins 6,8and power led to jfp1, pins 2,4 and they are turned correctly,
    7. ____your new psu has the 20 pin and square 4 pin power connector plugged in to jpw1 turned right and fully seated. and has  a bare min of 18a on 12v+ rail.
    8 ____your video card is fully seated an locked down,also securely screwed in.
    9 ____your floppy drive cable iss facing right way (pin1 is matched with red stripe)
    10. ____you have ata cables for hd and CD set to master/slave or cs. with hard drive set as master, end of cable.
    11 _____the power plugs are all fully seated, including psu rear plug,floppy ,hd, and CD.
    12. _____keyboard(ps2) and mouse plugged in, monitor plugged into video card,
    13 ______every thing is fully secured in case, side cover is off.
    14 ______CMOS jumper is set 1,2 keep data, all usb stuff is unplugged, except for dbracket.
    power it up, one beep, fans spin, in psu and CPU, and video card,
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    or hit Del to go into bios, set boot order, and .......
    .........your now at the end of the road, and it should by all means work,
    now what i am after,
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    no loose wires,
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    ddr ram 1 stick at a tme.
    you have tried different video cards, and in case of higher end card, the external molex power supply as plugged in,
    you have tried different ata hard drives
    you then have tried have set up your SATA drive correctly .
    everything is securely plugged in ..fully seated and oriented the right way?
    what are d-bracket error light, and any beep codes?
    you have tried a different wall outlet, you have changed surge protectors,
    you never hot plugged video cards, hd cables or power etc.
    i know this redundant , and basic , it is not meant to be insulting , it is meant to be a checklist and rule out all basic errors and potential problems
    if your mem bandwidth is slower then 3000..like 2400 this may help
    Received from a user - Slow memory 1T Command fix
    OK, here's what to do. Download the following ftp://ftp.vector.co.jp/pack/win95/hardware/other/wpcrs120.exe extract it, and run InstDD.exe. It'll ask to reboot, you don't need to do it right away, at least I didn't have to. Fire up WPCRSET.exe and do the following. Under startup, click on start, and under device, click enable. Now click add. The bus device and function will be 0,24, and 2. The register and data values will be the 93,08. There we have it! Enjoy everyone. I know I'm much happier now.  
    Here's a graphic to make it easier:
    I will add more by edit, or post as needed but i should post now so it can be put to use.
    I would like to Thank BAS,wonkaboy, Jocko, ethereal, Tiresmoke, Reilly, and the many others whose valued input helps solve problems.

    Quote
    amd 64=12a @12V
    ati 9800=7.5~10.5a @12V (assuming 90~125 watts) a max load,
    a 9600 ir nvida 5200 used far less power
    so your already at 18a with no fan,s no hd, no cd,no dvd ,no mobo chipset , no mem, no sound..etc
    If you exclude the motherboard, memory, etc like you did there, the amd 64 draws 7.2A @ 12V.
    90~125W for an ATI 9800?! [irony]Are you working for a PSU manufacturer or what?[/irony] That's just absurd.  
    Go read this post to get a feel for the actual power consumption: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?postid=297061&sid=#post297061

  • [Athlon64] MSI K8T NEO-V : incompatibility with ATI RADEON 9800 PRO

    Hi,
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    -AMD-64 3200
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    -ATI RADEON 9800 PRO
    -1 Go DDRAM (2x512 in single channel)
    -Hercules Digifires 7.1
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    But in AGP 4X, all the game run without problem with all setups of BIOS !!!
    I tried all the drivers (the new and the old drivers).  Even if all are updated, it freeze.
    There are no BIOS update for my motherboard. I saw that some people had BIOS update for compatibility with some Radeon cards ...
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    Does someone have the solution to make it work ? Does a new BIOS or driver update exist somewhere for Radeon cards ?

    What Bas said about 30+ amps on the 12v rail does have merit. Even if you don't use it now there may come a time when you want to upgrade the system and certainly you won't want to buy yet another PSU then. A High end vid card now takes almost as much as the CPU to operate. Now days the 12v rail is the most important. Past systems regulated everything off the 5v railk and 12v was used mostly for powering drive motors. Now though the MB's use the 12v line to regulate all the voltages for the CPU, Chipset and other features as does the Vid cards. 3.3 volt lines are used for memory so we hardly use any 5v nowdays.
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    If the computer shop gives you a bunch of bull about power needs havbe them stop by the forum and we can help set them straight on this. There is more than enough data from MSI and historical data here that suggests that 16a on the 12v rail is certainly not enough. Hey I am not trying to sell you anything. I am just trying to help you get it right. The computer shop is the one trying to sell you something we just feel they are selling the wrong junk.

  • Onboard 5.1 sound noisy - K8T Neo FIS2R

    Hi guys, i'm new here.
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    Kein

    LOL OK you can save us time by replying to that end the next time. Thanks.
    I know it may seem trivial but I can't count how many times a suggestion was assumed to have been tried and it turned out to be the fix in the end. So if we seem grouchy about getting a reply remember that we aren't the only one's that waste time chasing stuff when no one let's us know what they have tested.
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  • Cannot re-boot after enabling K8T Neo LAN Connection

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    Check to make sure you are not set to boot from network. Unfortunately I can't remember the exact name or where it is located, but it may help.
    Quote from: Geps on 07-July-05, 22:52:17
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  • K8T Neo V - Radeon X800 GTO Issues

    Hi, I've just upgraded my PC to an MSI K8T Neo-V MB with an Athlon 3400 and am having
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    Well, I'm now lighter in pocket to the tune of £70 !  I had to buy a new power supply in the end to test this one out.  Whilst not my first choice, I ended up with a Jeantech Arctic 600W.  Unfortunately the one I'd earmarked from PC World's website wasn't available in store (I couldn't wait for someone to deliver it to me lol ), however a quick check on the web namely 'Tom's Hardware' confirmed it as a reasonable PSU, and for £70 I should hope so to.
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    Hey, I'm glad to see a post on the new Gforce 6600GT AGP card.  I just recently put together a brand new system (see my sig for specs).  System runs great.  The only thing I wanted to do was replace the video card, and after a great deal of anxiety I decided the Geforce 6600GT AGP was the best bang for the buck.
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  • HEAVY Problems with Linux x86_64 on K8T Neo

    Hello, Community!
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    And now even the last problem is solved ...
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