Howto always clear paragraph style overrides?

Using Indesign Cs5.
I'm going to import loads of incopy-text that has already ben placed on other layouts. The problem is that these texts contains some paragraph styles overrides that I do not want to include in the new document.
Question: is there some way to tell indesign to automatically clear paragraph style overrides?

Reading through that article, it appears that added styles will be ignored with certain exceptions that in turn are overrideable in ID. But I am working in the blind here.
I know there are GREP routines you can use to set chosen paragraph styles to any other and it is fast to do. Search the forum for these.
Because I work by myself and don't receive anything but funky Word or text documents that I fully set in ID, I haven't faced what you are.
Hopefully someone who does use IC will come along to actually help you.
Mike

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'Clear Paragraph Style' and 'Clear Selection Style'

In an old archived topic, someone wrote:
quote:
In DWMX, you could select text in the design view and in the
"HTML Styles" window (which no longer exists in MX 2004) all you
had to do was click "Clear Selection Style" and all HTML formatting
(paragraph tags, font faces, colours, bold, italics etc) would be
removed. This was marvellous for reformatting <font> tag
based text with CSS. MX 2004 claims to be a CSS machine, but it
seems to lack this very important feature which helps to re-inforce
the use of CSS over font tags.
http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=189&threadid=714513&arc tab=arc
I absolutely agree, and none of the alternative methods
people suggested in that thread matched this lost feature for speed
and ease of use.
I've not seen a replacement for these commands in Dreamweaver
8 either (although I've often wished for one). Does anyone know of
a hidden feature that exists in version 8 for removing all the HTML
formatting in one fell swoop?

I count 4 steps.
1. Copy the entire line
2. Paste into notepad
3. Copy the entire line
4. Paste into DW
That does it nicely no matter how much presentational markup
there is.
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>
quote:
I think what the O/P is wanting is a quick and easy method to
remove
> all of
> those presentational tags.
>
> Thanks Gary ? spot on! I'll use the term 'presentational
markup' rather
> than
> 'HTML styles' from now on. (Excuse my ignorance, but
what's an 'OP'?
> Should I
> like being called such a thing? :)
>
>
quote:
Murray: ? but you just cannot create predefined "HTML STYLES"
any
> longer.
> It's no great loss....
>
> Agreed! Okay, we've established that no one's lamenting
the loss of 'HTML
> styles' in the sense of a style sheet that stores HTML
presentational
> markup.
>
>
quote:
And if "HTML STYLES" were not used in the first place, then
even having
> that feature available now wouldn't help OP, if your
interpretation is
> correct.
>
> Perhaps you are misinterpreting what those commands did.
'Clear Paragraph
> Style' was the equivalent of applying a predefined 'HTML
style' with no
> presentational markup ? making it as far as I know, the
quickest, easiest
> way
> to strip all presentational markup out of your HTML
(irrespective of
> whether
> the markup originated through the use of 'HTML styles').
This could have
> very
> easily been replaced by a stand-alone command.
>
>
quote:
There are certainly quick and easy ways to remove many of
them.
> Okay then, here's the test. How many steps does it take
you to clean up
> the
> following paragraph?
>
> <p align="center"><font size="+1" face="Times
New Roman, Times, serif">The
> quick
brown fox
jumps over the
<font
> color="#FF0000">lazy</font>
dog</font></p>
>
> I count 10 steps if you select the entire paragraph and
use nothing but
> the
> Properties panel and/or Text menu. Perhaps you can beat
my attempt. If I
> use
> the 'Clean Up HTML' command, it takes me about 20
seconds to check for and
> type
> in all the individual tags I want removed, then I still
have to manually
> fix
> the alignment. Do you know of a quicker, easier way?
>

How do I prevent unwanted paragraph style overrides when exporting an epub

I am having trouble controlling the size of a logo in an e-pub. Actually, it's only a problem with Amazon's Kindle which seems to insist on enlarging the image to the full screen width. So, I need a robust command in my CSS to override Kindle's preference. Seems easy. I placed the logo into my In Design layout in a picture box with the object style "frontmatterlogo" which should export into a div of the same name. Which it does. So far so good. However, In Design insists on creating a paragraph style override (see bold in the code below) which disregards the frontmatterlogo settings I've written in to my CSS in favour of it's own image settings which correspond to the size of the placed image. Currently, I've just put together a hacked solution by writing a class for para-style-override into my CSS. It's an inelegant solution but seems to work for all the other e-readers. But, as mentioned, it doesn't work on the Kindle.
Anyone have any idea what is causing these overrides and how I might prevent them so my div class can take over?
Alan
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="no"?>
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        <link href="template.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css"/>
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                <h1 class="fulltitle">Far North</h1>
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            </div>
        </div>
    </body>
</html>

Thanks for getting back so quickly, Bob.
I'm using Version 5.5. I have basically the same problem when the object is anchored. In the case below, I created a new paragraph style for the line on which the logo would be anchored, also mapping to the frontmatterlogo entry in my CSS. This time, no paragraph-style-override is added but In Design still adds it's own image dimensions corresponding to the size at which the image was placed in the layout. This overrides the settings in my CSS and, I suspect, might be what's allowing the Kindle settings to take over as well. I had kind of resigned myself to fixing this in the code on a book by book basis, which is fine if the only images the book contains is a cover and a title page logo. But I'm worried about what happens when I have to create an e-pub from a photo-heavy book. You can see how it would be ideal to create a few specific object styles for different image situations in In Design and have them map them to specific div styles in my CSS. Basically it's a workflow issue. This would minimize the amount of after-the-fact coding our already swamped designers would have to do.
It's so obvious in the code where the problem lies, and so I just have a feeling that there may be a simple fix. If only I knew why In Design felt obliged to specify the image size.
A.
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="no"?>
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.1 //EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml11/DTD/xhtml11.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
    <head>
        <title>Titlepage2-1.html</title>
        <link href="template.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css"/>
    </head>
    <body>
        <div id="Titlepage2-1.html" xml:lang="en-US">
            <div class="story">
                <p class="Pagebreak"/>
                <h1 class="fulltitle">Far North</h1>
                <h2 class="author">MARCEL THEROUX</h2>
                <p class="frontmatterlogo"><img class="frontmatterlogo" width="196" height="20" src="images/HarperPerennialClassic_fmt.jpeg" alt="HarperPerennialClassicsLogo.jpg"/></p>
            </div>
        </div>
    </body>
</html>

Can I clear all paragraph style overrides at once?

Sometimes when I change a paragraph style, the places where I've applied it don't conform. Why is this?
I end up having to go through the whole document and hitting "clear overrides." Is there an easier way?
Thank you!

Local formatting always trumps a style.
Try using Find/Change, though, searching for the style and replacing with the same style. That might do it.

Do paragraph style overrides work differently in CS3 vs CS4?

Hi All-
I’m in the process of moving a workflow from CS3 to CS4, and have run into an unexpected problem. In the existing CS3 workflow, we receive copyedited text with Word paragraph styles applied, then import this text into our InDesign template. This template has all the same paragraph style names as the Word file, so we tell InDesign to use the InDesign style definitions in the Import options. So, for instance, the Word style for Para_Text is Times New Roman 12pt, and the InDesign style for Para_Text is Helvetica Neue 8pt, and on Import InDesign automatically changes it to Helvetica Neue 8pt. This is as we want it.
Things fall apart, however, when we import the same text into the same template in InDesign CS4. It still applies the InDesign style definition, but has additional overrides to make it look like the Word style definition. So, it recognizes that the underlying paragraph style should be Helvetica Neue 8pt, but it then preserves Times New Roman 12pt as an override. If I select the text and do Clear Overrides, it’ll revert to the Helvetica Neue 8pt we want it in, but for other reasons that solution is less than ideal.
I think I can come up with a rather kludgy way around this, but I’m trying to understand exactly why we’re getting the different behavior in CS4. It seems like paragraph style conflicts are being handled in a different way in CS3 than CS4 – in CS3, if the InDesign paragraph style specifically spelled out a font, that would dominate on import; now, in CS4, it’s allowing the Word paragraph style to seep through as an override. Any thoughts as to why this is happening?
Thanks,
-Nate

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It have been working for long long time but suddenly it keeps crashing all the time.
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Problem with paragraph style overrides and character formatting

I've had this problem for a long time, and sometimes it resolves itself, sometimes it doesn't. Finally I'm begging for help.
I am typesetting academic articles into a journal. We use endnotes. The endnotes have both italic and regular formatting--italics for book and journal titles, and foreign phrases.
Sometimes when I place the text, the formatting reverts to whatever it was in Word. To try to fix that, I've begun stripping the Word formatting from the original document, making everything "Courier New" and just importing it like that. I figured this would clear a lot of the problems I've had with fiddly formatting issues.
I was mistaken.
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When I place the document it comes up in the original Courier New font, with italics and other formatting intact. If I click "article style" which is the main article paragraph style format, normally it changes. but if I right click and select "apply article style" it is more likely to change the paragraph to the proper style, with italics and other formatting still intact.
But when it gets to endnotes, I'm sort of screwed.
My endnotes style is a bulletted style, so that I can have the endnote numbers consistent. but this seems to screw all the style formatting.
Here is what I do:
With the cursor in endnote text, I click "bulleted endnote style". The character format remains the same, with a + beside the style. The endnote number format is different, however. If I click "clear overrides" it does in fact change to the proper formatting, but it strips any italics or other character in the text. This is frustrating because many of these endnotes have lots of italicized journal and book titles, and it takes a long time to figure out which ones I need to reitalicize manually.
I have tried to use the "customize style import>Style mapping" but it has not fixed anything.
Please help me figure out how to make these transitions more smoothly. I am open to suggestions both on how to make the changes once the document is placed in the Indesign file, and also making modifications to formats in the native Word file so that I don't have these problems.
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Dan

Sorry, that last message wasn't supposed to send (if that's not obvious!). I was writing it and got interrupted. Damn iphone.
I know why there are two numbers. This is not an issue. What I didn't finish writing was that, the note number before i bullet it is a different font/ format. Again, not a problem. Here is something interesting, though. If I delete that original number by placing the cursor in the middle of it (say a between the 4 and 2 of 42) then delete everything by Shift+arrow forward, press delete then delete the rest of the unnecessary characters, THEN apply the style formatting, it works just fine. Is it something to do with the character codes of those original note numbers?
Word drops in so many hidden codes that it screws everything up!

Import ID tagged text file results in paragraph style overrides

I have been working on a project that requires the import of a large amount of information from a database. I have defined all the paragraph styles in InDesign and have a program to apply the paragraph style to the database information creating the InDesign Tagged Text file. When I place it into my document the paragraph styles are recognized but there is an override. If I clear the override, the text looks fine. I have an example document that I have exported and imported some text to rule out the program, but even in this case, an override occurs. Text is there, the paragraph format is there, but font size (for example) is wrong. Where should I be looking to correct this issue?
Harold

I don't recognize any of those being wrong, per se. I have the file on another computer, so I mocked up yet another one. Sorry
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http://pastebin.com/Vdc6NVDV
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[JS CS3] Find paragraphs that contain a single Style override

Given a document with consistently applied paragraph styles. I need to locate all the paragraphs in the document that contain a paragraph style override of the left indent. All other style overrides can be ignored.
I see in the DOM how to clear overrides, but is there any way to locate paragraphs that have a specific override?
I suspect there is no way to do this, but thought I'd throw this out there.

This will override a single paragraph attribute:
var myAttribute = "leftIndent";
var myParagraphs = app.activeDocument.stories.everyItem().paragraphs.everyItem().getElements();
for (var n = 0; n < myParagraphs.length; n++){
myParagraphs[n][myAttribute] = myParagraphs[n].appliedParagraphStyle[myAttribute];

Make paragraph style not override character style?

Hi.
Is there any way to make a paragraph style NOT override a character style?
For example, I write a lot of scientific reports in Pages and then I use subscript and superscript often and so I have made a character style for that. But if I want to perhaps change the spacing between paragraphs in my body style. I select a paragraph, change the settings that I want and then I right click on the paragraph style and choose "redefine style from selection". Then I select all of that style and choose "revert to defined style" to get the updated paragraph spacing. But what this does is that it overrides all of the character styles so that everything in sub/superscript, bold, italic etc get back to the style. This is really bugging me out.
For the character styles you can select what attributes you want them to affect, is there any way to do this with paragraph styles as well? Or maybe some of you have got a good way to make it work.
Thanks in advance.

When you redefine the paragraph style, all paragraphs using that style will display the new style properties, unless you've overriden them. Presumably this is why you choose "revert to defined style", so that other paragraphs that you've stylistically modified take on the proper paragraph style properties. If not, why revert at all?
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Overrided Paragraph Styles: Three different states instead of logical two.

Hi there,
I am curious to find out why there are three states of paragraph style instead of two:
State 1: Clear paragraph style: Everything understandable. Style is applied to paragraph. No conflicts.
State 2: Paragraph with applied Paragraph Style has been infected by some additional changes. There is 2× "+" sign beside name of the Style and beside name of Style in the header of the Paragraph Styles Palette. All clear to me so far.
State 3: Paragraph with applied Paragraph Style has been infected by some additional changes. There is just 1× "+" in the header of the Paragraph Styles Palette.Confusion.
So my question is: What difference is between States 2 and 3?
Thank you in advance!

You are right, it is not. But with trying around I detected another bug with fonts and styles. Which I have reported.
@ChristianAaltonen
Can you provide us a link to such a document, so we can investigate it?
Thanks
Willi

[JS] How to break link to paragraph style from script?

I don't found the command break link to paragraph style from script.
I want "unapply" the style from the text, but leave the formatting intact.
Can help me?

In the interface it's a separate command ("Break link to style"), but it seems in a script you have to use
Paragraph.applyParagraphStyle (using:ParagraphStyle[, clearingOverrides:bool=true])
You cannot use "null" or something similar for "ParagraphStyle", so I guess the idea is to use paragraph style #0 in your document (which is always "[No Paragraph Style]"). Be sure to set "clearing Overrides" to false, as it defaults to true.
The following single line works on your current paragraph:
app.activeDocument.selection[0].paragraphs[0].applyParagraphStyle (app.activeDocument.paragraphStyles[0], false);

Clearing paragraph formatting with Ctrl-0

This is a FYI.
I've always cleared paragraph formatting with Ctrl-0, but it doesn't seem to work anymore (PC, Dreamweaver CC 2014.1). Ctrl-0 is still set in the keyboards shortcuts to set paragraph formatting to 'None,' but it just doesn't work. I tried changing the shortcut to something else and it worked fine. I then tried changing it back to Ctrl-0 and it said it was already assigned to '100% view.' So I found that shortcut, cleared it, and then assigned Ctrl-0 to Clear Paragraph Formatting and all is good now.
G

Sounds like they probably changed some keyboard shortcuts to mimic browser shortcuts.
Good to know.

CS2 4.0.5. Sometimes cannot clear local overrides in paragraph styles

Sometimes, when I'm tweaking a text design using local characteristics to override the style sheet, if I want to revert to the original I try Option-clicking the relevant style in the list of Paragraph Style Sheets, but nothing happens - and the override button at the bottom of the Para Style Sheets tab is greyed out.
Has anyone experienced this?
I don't have any Character Styles applied, so it can't be that.
I like to avoid having + symbols hanging off my style sheets so I know that my styling is consistent throughout the whole document, so this problem is a bit of a spanner ...

There is a bug in CS2 where it doesn't necessarily always get rid of the "+" character even when all overrides have been cleared. Try collapsing the palette (if it is docked to the side of the screen) or just closing and re-opening it. After doing this, the plusses should be accurate again.

[win][js][cs4]find/change paragraph styles without losing local overrides

Hi guys i need a little help here.
I created a javascript which will find and replace doc file paragraph styles with indesign paragraph styles. everything works fine but the problem is that when it applies the paragraph styles it loses all local overrides. i tried:
changetext(false);
but its not working is there some kind of conditional parameter that i can put in the changetext() function so that it wont clear local overrides?
Thanks.
CharlesD

Thanks Kasyan. You're always there to save my day. Thank you very much...
I slightly modify the script to go through all my paragraph styles that need to be replaced coz there are hundreds of them. Im not sure though if this is the best or is there any faster way to do this:
replace("T1", "Text", "T1");
replace("T", "Text", "T");
replace("1", "Heads", "1");
replace("2", "Heads", "2");
function replace(input, folder, output) {
    var foundItem;
    var doc = app.activeDocument;
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    app.findGrepPreferences.appliedParagraphStyle = input;
    var foundItems = doc.findGrep();
    for (var i = 0; i < foundItems.length; i++) {
        foundItem = foundItems[i];
        foundItem.applyParagraphStyle(doc.paragraphStyleGroups.item(folder).paragraphStyles.item( output), false);
    app.findGrepPreferences = app.changeGrepPreferences = NothingEnum.NOTHING;

Alt shift clear paragraph overrides does not work

ID CS3 Win
This is one of those little things that is becoming very frustrating-- crtl +shift+ click on paragraph style does not work all the time. It worked for me last week, but is not working today-- or it actually does work after click about 3 times , clicking another style and clicking back on the correct style. Anyone experiencing this/know a fix or what I may be doing wrong? I am doing as it says, holding those keys down and clicking the style.

>crtl +shift+ click on paragraph style does not work all the time
It shouldn't work at all. Those modifiers are for the clear overrides button at the bottom of the styles palette. Alt-click on the style name to clear all overrides. I believe this is different behaviour from CS2 (or am I thinking of CS) where alt-click cleared character overrides and alt-shft-click cleared everything.

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