Howto build e17 the right way with the help of takhis PGKBUILDs

hello!
first of all, thank you takhis for packaging e17!
you offer the PKGBUILDs for e17, so i decided to build them by myself to have the newest version, because i need it for the new simply-white theme (0.8.3). with the version from 2008-12-22 i do not see any window in the pager!
i built and installed them in the order commended by the wiki @ enlightenment.org.
http://wiki.enlightenment.org/index.php … _Using_CVS
but i get errors while starting it and after recovering it jerks! the hole desktops acts like a high-end game on a not so potent system.
can someone or takhis give me some hints i have to note while building the packages?
thanks, mfg iggy
Last edited by iggy (2008-01-14 20:12:01)

fancris3 wrote:Automatically build pkg and install e17.
Dont build as root and please tell my if something is wrong.
I put your build scripts (all contents of archive) in /var/abs/local/e17, but trying to use it I have:
./order
libs/imlib2-cvs
:: BUILDING imlib2-cvs DONE
error: failed to add target 'imlib2-cvs-20080115-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz' (nie udało się otworzyć pliku pakietu)ładowanie informacji o pakietach... mv: nie można wykonać stat na `imlib2-cvs-20080115-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz': Nie ma takiego pliku ani katalogu
(failed to open file packet) loading package information ... mv: can't stat on `imlib2-cvs-20080115-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz': No such file nor catalogue
any tips how to install it?

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    Well, I don't think anyone's done a tape saturation plugin properly yet. I'm not an expert in this field, but had some interesting discussions with one of the Sonalksis developers over on KVR who is heavily researching into tape saturation (he's doing a doctorate in the subject) and he thinks that it is possible to do a decent tape saturation plugin - not easy by a long stretch, but possible, so I'm sure we will eventually see decent plugs appearing.
    Having said that, I'm not actually a huge fan of the tape sound anyway - I like the impulses for that colour if I need it, but I certainly don't run everything through it. I don't really like the smeared transients, at least on my "less natural" pieces. Rock music (as an example) may well work better.
    The plugins that do saturation in varying amounts are a mixed bag in my opinion. A lot of people love VintageWarmer, but I'm not that keen on it (again, I'm not an "expert" by a long stretch, these are just my personal opinions).
    I've had some great results using Guitar Amp Pro for saturation and warming (we're talking subtle stuff here) on drums and guitars.
    There are a bunch of other plugs too, but none that I have used to tape saturation. DUY's tape does saturation, but not really accurate tape simulation *from what I have heard* - I haven't used it personally myself. Charles Dye seems to like it, anyway!
    . Finally: Did anybody experiance differences in quality when
    comparing Convolution Reverbs (i.e. SD vs Altiverb vs Waves) in
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    In general, no. Mathmatical convolution is afaiu a mathmatically "perfect" process, much like the adding of audio signals in the digital realm. As long as you know how to do the maths correctly, there should be no difference, given the same IR (it's the IR that really determines the quality of the output).
    Of course, different plugs implement things differently, and have different features, but by and large, the convolution engines these things use should be generally the same.
    Again, I'm no expert and haven't done exhaustive testing or anything - this info comes from discussions I have and my understanding of these processes from a DSP point of view. Other may well be able to back up or debunk what I've said, so I'll leave the floor to them now...

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