HOWTO: Gnome 2 with up-to-date core system

This manual for clear install system only. Use it at your own risk. There is no guarantee of future without conflicts between the dependencies. If you want global upgrade (pacman -Syu) after Gnome 2 installation, make sure you masked all Gnome 2 packages in /etc/pacman.conf.
Task: Gnome 2 (from Arch Rollbak Machine) with up-to-date system packages
Step 1. Install a core system.
Install new core system with netinstall cd or with core cd. If you use core cd, make sure you update your system with "pacman -Syu" after installation.
Step 2. Xorg, drivers, sound
Usual Xorg, drivers and sound installation with wiki installation guide =]
Step 3. Gnome 2
Replace appropriate lines in /etc/pacman.conf with:
[core]
#Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
Server = http://arm.konnichi.com/2011/04/29/core/os/i686
[extra]
#Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
Server = http://arm.konnichi.com/2011/04/29/extra/os/i686
[community]
#Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
Server = http://arm.konnichi.com/2011/04/29/community/os/i686
Update and install gnome 2:
pacman -Sy gnome
or with gnome-extra meta-package:
pacman -Sy gnome gnome-extra
Step 4. Conflicts and fix for them
Gstreamer0.10-plugins require neon, but newest neon not can be installed (krb5 and heimdal conflict).
Some packages (pidgin, for example) require cyrus-sasl-plugins, but newest cyrus-sasl-plugins not can be installed (krb5 and heimdal conflict).
We can install old neon and old cyrus-sasl-plugins for fix this problem (see 5 step also):
Replace appropriate lines in /etc/pacman.conf with:
[extra]
#Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
Server = http://arm.konnichi.com/2011/05/05/extra/os/i686
Update and install neon and cyrus-sasl-plugins:
pacman -Sy neon cyrus-sasl-plugins
Well, now we can install gstreamer0.10-plugins and pidgin from up-to-date repositories. See step 5.
Step 5. Final.
Rollback commented lines in pacman.conf (come back to up-to-date repositories):
[core]
Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
#Server = http://arm.konnichi.com/2011/04/29/core/os/i686
[extra]
Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
#Server = http://arm.konnichi.com/2011/04/29/extra/os/i686
[community]
Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
#Server = http://arm.konnichi.com/2011/05/05/community/os/i686
Update:
pacman -Syy
and install other packages which you need. For me:
pacman -S gstreamer0.10-plugins firefox pidgin
Warning! There is no guarantee of future conflicts between the dependencies. If you want global upgrade (pacman -Syu) after Gnome 2 installation, make sure you masked all Gnome 2 packages in /etc/pacman.conf.
I hope this helps someone.
P.S.: Sorry for my bad english =]

wonder wrote:i really don't want that to our wiki. it gives the impression we are supporting gnome 2
ngoonee wrote: I concur with wonder
ewaller wrote: Yeah, you guys are correct. I missed that it was Gnome 2
wonder wrote: basically what are you explaining to me is that you don't have any stability issues but instead you prefer old versions. in this case arch is not for you and you prefer a distribution like debian
With all due respect to the Arch big dogs, I respectfully, completely disagree with your stance regarding Gnome 3.
Wouldn't the above quotes be a perfect example of group think? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groupthink
Why are all the Gnome 2 users expected to just roll over and comply to Gnome's force feeding desktop users to test the Shell that was obviously designed for a system without mouse intergration, ie tablets, etc?
I come to the force feed testing conclusion based on the following facts:
1) Gnome switched libraries and or dependencies that made it nearly if not completely impossible to run Gnome 2 and 3 DE on the same root system.
2) Gnome did not implement the fall back mode features that would have made Gnome 3 a usable replacement for Gnome2.
3) Gnome knowingly released a seriously broken for the desktop with version 3.
4) Gnome must have focused all development resources on Gnome shell designed for the tablet (big new potential market) because of all the missing features in "fallback" aka "desktop" mode.
5) Gnome appears to have turned their back on regular desktop users, at least those who prefer to use a mouse.
If the desktop users debug the Shell, it will be closer to prime time during the next predicted big computer marketing thing, the tablet.
Isn't Linux supposed to be all about community, choice, contribution, etc? Does this include Arch?
If someone has figured out a way to avoid the Gnome 3 train wreck, and retain his version of the best of an Arch/Gnome2 system, more power to him...
If that someone has taken the time to document his accomplishments, has he not contributed by sharing that info?
Out of concern for this thread getting moved, lost or deleted in the future, and to have neocrust's info available to the most people ................
I'd like to suggest an alternative to what has been discussed here so far. How about a link at the bottom of the Gnome wiki page with a title like, Gnome 2 on Arch "UNOFFICIAL"?
If that's agreeable to the Arch big dogs, I'd gladly donate an account on my website http://www.jeffstory.org/wordpress/ if neocrust would be interested in maintaining and updating it.
Oh, and regarding the last quote by wonder, would it have been more appropriate to suggest an alternative DE rather than basically saying, go away from Arch? I really prefer Arch, so I chose to switch to XFCE rather than distros... If I had more Linux smarts, Id have likely taken the same path as neocrust.
Last edited by jeff story (2011-06-08 17:22:16)

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