HP 2100TN, JetDirect Server, Appletalk & OS 10.4

I have a built-in ethernet local network using a netgear hub, 3 Apple computers and HP2100 laser printer. When running Panther, I could print when connected to the internet. That is I could print an email and not lose my connection to mail. When I upgraded to Tiger, somehow the printer required appletalk to be activated. Appletalk cannot be activated while I am on the internet (DSL connection), so I have to switch back and forth from being on line to go off line to print. HP says there should be no problem. Is it a setup with the printer? Is appletalk required to print over the built-in ethernet connection. All three computers have the same problem. It is becoming increasingly frustrating to have to constantly switch back and forth using the system preferences. Going from Appletalk enabled to DSL with appletalk disabled.

I think I need more info. Is that really a hub - or a router? Does only one computer at a time use the internet? The best/safest solution will be for you to have a router.
If you don't have a router, do this:
Go to Syst Prefs > Network > Show Network Port Configurations. Single-click Ethernet and then "Duplicate." Name it something useful like "Local Net." Apply and now go back to Show "Local Net." Give it a local-only IP address - try 192.168.4.4. Turn on Appletalk in this setup. Turn off appletalk for the other ethernet.
I don't use this - because I have a router that also provides a firewall for my entire local network - so I may have missed some specific detail. Please try it and come back with questions.

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I have bought a new router (AVM Fritz wlan 7170) which has a printer port that uses an emulated HP JetDirect Server for printing.
Is it somehow possible to use the original HP Inkjet Drivers v2.7.1 for printing to my Hewlett Packard Deskjet 5652? I can't find them when setting up the printer in the Printer Setup Utility. When i choose "Add Printer-> IP-Printer-> JetDirect Socket" the original drivers do not occur in the drivers list.
I can use Gutenprint or HPIJS drivers, but these are not as good as the original drivers.
Any ideas?
I thought that Airport Express used a JetDirect emulation as well and the original HP drivers do work with that one.

Airport Extreme/Express do emulate Jetdirect/port 9100 printing, but that isn't what they use for printing from OS X. OS X and the Bonjour/airport software use USB port redirection, a unique and separate method.
If the HP driver supports any protocol over ethernet, it would be appletalk. Does that router server use appletalk?

So easy to set up IP Printing using JetDirect/HP Laser/OSX

I am on 10.5 and have hesitated to switch to 10.6 because I have an old HP 5MP that I love, and AppleTalk has been dropped in 10.6
I have read all the horror stories on how difficult the setting are, finding the IP address, configuring, etc. etc.
I have to laugh - it took me about three hours, but in the end it's so easy it's a joke.
If you have an old Laser printer, this should work.
Get a HP JetDirect server - cheapest you can find on eBay etc - I paid $44 for a new one - a 300X.
Get a parallel printer cable.
Connect the cable to the printer and the server - connect the old appletalk ethernet cable you were using to the socket on the server.
Press the button on top of the server - it prints out the configuration (coming to that realization took two hours and 59 minutes of the three hours!!!)
Read the IP address on the configuration printout. Add printer, select IP Printing - select HP JetDirect Socket - and then the use either the Generic Drive or other for your actual driver.
It's so easy you won't believe it.
Enjoy!

I Figured it out! I copied the network settings from a pc on the network (dns and tcp/ip) and put them in on network settings. I then used my network password and user name to connect to the network. i set it up so the printer got shared from one pc on the network and then connected to that pc in the printer setup window under "windows" and further conected to the printer, chose the right driver and it worked! it only asked for my password again when i went to the printer spoule which i entered and added to my keychain. now it works perfectly!

Wireless Print Server Recommendations

I have a MacBook (10.4) and a Dell Inspiron Notebook. I'm getting ready to purchase a wireless print server, which wireless print routers do you recommend that will be Mac friendly (i.e easy to set up with both my Dell & MacBook).

It is really a question about the printer and its driver. The Mac situation is different from Windows. Most non-postscript printers come with Carbon drivers, where the comm protocol is written into the driver. USB non-postscript printers come USB-only drivers. To use the OS X built-in protocols, you need CUPS drivers (or postscript driver/printer).
Except for one or two models out there, nearly all print servers use the industry standard comm protocols LPD, IPP, HP jetdirect or appletalk.
Apple print servers are yet a different situation - they have firmware that works like Mac-to-Mac print sharing (so they can use USB-only drivers).
HTH

Network printing, more driver issues

A simple HP990 connected to an IP print server is a disaster under OS X.
1) HP provides drivers that work wonderfully - as long as it's USB (wired)
2) HP drivers dissapear if ADD PRINTER cannot physically find printer during install
3) GIMP drivers are latest - and they are almost 2 years old
4) No 2-way comm w/printer - this is NOT an IP issue
5) Dozens of printer features are unavailable to OS - show ink etc
6) Duplexing is just plain broken
7) Although HP drivers are installed, they will NOT be available to you if printer is not connected via a WIRE. This is rediculous.
8) IP "Find Printer" does not work. Cannot even find Linux printers, much less Windows, netBeui, or Wireless printers.
9) If you force printer model, you cannot use proper HP drivers. Must use GIMP.
10) Once printer is installed/configured, you CANNOT change ports. Again this is redic.
I was told OS X was VERY problematic with printing. It's the achilles heel in an otherwise wonderful OS environment.
Come on, Apple. Fire the printer guy over there and get this stuff straight.

THe HP deskjet driver does not support printing to a DeskJet 990 connected to a generic TCP/IP print server.
In Mac OS X 10.0 and 10.1 the printer drivers had to enumerate the communication protocols that they supported. This requirement was removed in 10.2 but many of the printer manufacturers still provide drivers that are tied to specific protocols. The HP provided DeskJet 990 driver support USB and AppleTalk. It may also support printing over TCP/IP to an HP JetDirect server but I've never tried that.
The Gimp-Print drivers are written so that they are independent of the communications protocol used. The Gimp-Print drivers will work over USB, Bluetooth, LPD, IPP, AppleTalk, socket, SMB, and other protocols. The Gimp-Print project is very active. It is currently closing on the release of version 5. The project has been renamed Gutenprint. You can find more information here: http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net/
1. HP drivers work over USB and over TCP/IP depending upon the printer model. For example the Photosmart 2510 driver works great over a wireless connection using TCP/IP to that printer.
2. I'm not sure what is being described in this bullet item.
3. The latest version of Gimp-Print is v5.0rc2. As noted above the project is now called Gutenprint.
4. The HP drivers support bidirectional communication. The Gimp-Print drivers do not support bidirectional communications yet but they will likely do so soon.
5. Some drivers support low ink detection and some do not. The drivers that do support low ink detection show it in the print dialog and in the desktop printer. Most drivers also come with Utilities for checking ink levels and these are linked to by the desktop printer.
6. Duplexing works fine using the HP drivers. Are you having a problem with duplex and the Gimp-Print driver?
7. As discussed above the HP drivers can not be hooked to a communications protocol they do not explicitly support. This has nothing to do with wired versus wireless.
8. The Add printer browser shows locally attached printers, AppleTalk printers, Bonjour TCP/IP based printers, and printers shared from Linux CUPS servers. Other printers can be found by hitting "More Printers."
9. Again, yes, the HP drivers can not be used over a generic TCP/IP connection such as LPD, IPP, or socket. The Gimp-Print drivers do work over these connections. So do the HPIJS drivers. The HPIJS drivers can be found here: http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/9979.
10. This is true. If the TCP/IP address changes on a printer then you need to re-add the printer.
I hope this is helpful.

Upgraded to mac OS 10.9.2 and cannot get my Officejet g85xi to work

has anyone figured out a solution to this problem. Is there a work around or something. I cannot run my he setup assistant program. the drivers that i have downloaded from hp wont open in the new os. HEEELLLPPP. I love this printer has anyone had this same problem

HP G85 does not use standard usb protocol. See : http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/openprinting/macosx/hpijs-usb
If you connect with jetdirect server (175 or higher) - and not usb- you can color print following this procedure :
- open the printer web page, clic on networking tab. Select Configuration, other settings. Select usb settings tab, choose auto communication mode and HPGL2 status page language (default is auto). Do not chosse PCL or postscript. Unplug G85 and replug.
- download packages from : http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/openprinting/macosxhpijs?
- install foomatic first, then gplgs, then hpijs-3.10.6.dmg. You do not need to reboot
- I suggest to reinitialize printers on your mac if you don't have other printers installed
- install a new printer : you should see your G85 and select use : HP Officejet G85 hpijs, 3.10.6.15. Then click add.
Print a test page. It should work fine.
The same procedure should apply to HP printers listed in http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/openprinting/macosx/hpijs-usb.
Scanner is accessible from the printer web page.

HP webservices tab not available when using HP Jetdirect 2700w wireless print server

I recently bought HP Laserjet Enterprise 500 m551 dn color laser printer with HP jetdirect 2700w wireless print server ( one day old at this time).
I was able to configure the device and enable/ use eprint services using the embedded server with a wired connection.
However when I attach a the mentioned wireless print server, the "Webservices" tab disappears from the configuration website, the printer reports that the eprint services are not enabled and ofcourse hp eprint or google cloud print do not work. The printer appears offline at eprintcenter. Everything else works fine.
On the product website for the wireless server, it clearly states that this is compatible with eprint services.
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This seems to be a commercial product. For the best chance at finding a solution I would suggest posting in the forum for HP Business Support!
You can find the Commercial Jetdirect board here:
http://h30499.www3.hp.com/t5/Print-Servers-Network-Storage/bd-p/bsc-254
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How can I set up printing to queues on a Windows 2008 server directly from the iPad apps and not from third-party applications without using AppleTalk or Bonjour?

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How to print with HP Jetdirect 175g Print Server

I am using an old "Snow" Airport base station, which works perfectly well with my MacBook's AirPort card under Snow Leopard. Currently an HP Jetdirect 175g Print Server is plugged into the Airport base station. However, when I press the print server's configuration button, a page is printed out that merely indicates a subnet of 255. But otherwise does not offer an IP address, for use in setting up an Snow Leopard IP printer.
HP is of absolutely no help here. The print server was originally set up under Tiger, however since upgrading to Snow Leopard it no longer works. I am at a loss as to how to make this connection work that once did under TIger. There is no driver installer listed on HPs site for OS X.
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Hi there,
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Looking at the HP web site, there appears to be a way to reset the print server and configure the network settings via telnet. Have a look at this document.
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Jetdirect 300x print server wont print from my imac

I have an iMac running 10.6.8 and I would like to print over my newtwork using a hp jetdirect 300x which is attached to a hp 5p lazerjet printer. The windows xp notebook i have works fine through it. I can see a jetdirect socket on the list on my Mac when i am trying to connect to it using the add a printer function and i printed out the pcl config page using my windows notebook. I used the ip address from there but nothing i do gets a print order through. either it unendingly tries to connect and doesn't or it shows a printer in the selection window but registers a busy will try in 5 seconds or does not connect. I understand apple discontinued appletalk with this operating system and I could find no drivers or printserver software on hp's website for apple to download to make this work. can anyone suggest something to do to make my iMac and printserver work together. I have another hp color lazerjet 2600n that works with the iMac just by plugging it in and loading the cd that came with it. I don't have a cd for the Jetdirect 300x. Could i get one somewhere and would it have the apple drivers to make this work if I could?

vic11,
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HP jetdirect ew2400 802.11g Wireless Print Server

I have a network setup where there is a PC desktop and a couple of
laptops (one Macbook Pro and the other a PC) which are respectively connected to a Linksys wireless router by wire and wirelessly. There is also an HP All-In-One 6110 thrown
into this mix, which is currently hard-wired via USB to the desktop. I
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I have a question about this particular product. It mentions in the
literature that this product will either work wirelessly or wired. No
where does it mention that it will do both at the same time. I am
familiar with wireless routers which allow both wired and wireless
connections. Would the same not be true for the print server?

Henry G4 makes some good points.
I am not sure I understand why you want to use both wireless and ethernet at the same time. In both cases it would be on the same local network, right? The only situation I can think of using both wired and wireless is if you have two separate networks and you're trying to share it on each.
So, I add this: whether the printer were wired or wireless, it would be accessible to all computers in the same local network.
Here is your real problem - drivers. Unless you have read something elsewhere, the OS X print driver HP provided for your AIO only works for direct USB connection. Not even with an HP Jetdirect. (not sure about scanning driver) read here:
http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&task Id=120&prodSeriesId=408888&prodTypeId=18972&objectID=c00218889
It will be cheaper to try sharing as Henry suggests. You will need the hpijs driver set:
http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting/MacOSX/hpijs
PS - I know this is hard for Windows converts to get their arms around, because on Windows, a driver is a driver. But on OS X, we're not there yet - there are two kinds of print drivers.
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Job prints but is then stuck in queue - LaserJet P1102 with JetDirect 175x print server

Hello,
I have an unusual error happening when i try to install my P1102 through a print server. Everything installs ok and allows me to print a test page, the next document i try to print prints ok but the job remains in the queue and stays there. After a couple of minutes saying Printing it then says Error, and any other attempts at printing get stuck behind this job. Then, if i dont delete the job in error from the queue it will print this document every 10 mins until deleted or i switch the printer off!
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Hi CompassCC,
The jetdirect 175 is a commercial line product. Check out the support documentation from the link below.
http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Home.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&prodTypeId=18972&prodSeriesI...
You may want to repost your questions on the commercial support forum at the links below.
http://h30499.www3.hp.com/t5/Business-Support-Forums/ct-p/business-support
http://h30499.www3.hp.com/t5/Printers-LaserJet/bd-p/bsc-413
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It is possible to install the AppleTalk protocol on the sbs2011 essentials server

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I have apple II(very old ) and having SBS 2011 essentials domain controller.
I just wanted to know that is it possible to install AppleTalk protocol on the SBS 2011 essential server?
If yes then how?
Thanks,
Sagar.

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I was using G5 and had Leaord on it. I was not able to update any new softwares on it as it was not intel based. I bought a new machine Mac Pro and now there is no appletalk on it.
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AppleTalk is gone since Snow Leopard. There's no way to use it on Lion. But isn't clear what you need. Do you still want to use your G5? Or you need only to transfer files onto your new Mac Pro?

Using HP Jetdirect 300X print server with OS 10.4 Ethernet/Airport?

I am trying to speed up my connection to my older HP 5MP Postscript printer by switching to an HP Jetdirect 300X print server. I was previously printing through a Farralon ethernet-to-Localtalk adapter, but this can be very slow and I found that printing from a PC to this printer over its parallel port was about 20 times faster (it would sometimes take up to 50 minutes to print one document over the ethernet-to-Localtalk adapter). HP claims that this Jetdirect 300X print server will be even faster than printing from a PC and I will still be able to use Postscript from the Macs.
BUT, HP does not give adequate info how to set up this print server with a Mac network, despite recommending it. The info I have found so far seems to require being a PC systems and network administrator to understand it. (very high-techese) Does anyone have experience setting this up with OS 10.4? I do still have one old Mac running OS 9 that I can set up in a pinch if I have to, but I would prefer to be able to get rid of OS 9 completely. I also have one computer with Windows XP Home Edition if I can use that to set up the server and then operate it with Macs.
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I'm not familiar with the JetDirect, but I can tell you that I have an HP Laserjet 4m at work set up to receive print jobs from both our Macs and PCs.
We have it hooked up to a Windows 2000 PC which is sharing the printer. The same concept would apply to XP. Just install the printer and then share the printer. Keep the share name short (something like HP5 or so - OSX does not seem to like long shared printer names). As long as you have at least OSX 10.3 you can use the Printer Setup Utility to to Add a printer. Select Windows shared printers. Locate the Windows XP printer on the network and have the Mac connect to it. You'll see the shared printer in the list. Select the driver and add the printer.
You'll need to have file sharing established on the XP computer, or at least the printer sharing and you will want to use the account that the computer logs in to. You'll also need a printer driver on the Mac side. HP does not have this. However, there are several drivers available for HP printers under CUPS (Common Unix Printing System). Do a Google search for "Gutenprint" and you'll get the website for the drivers. You'll want to have that installed before adding the printer in OSX.
BTW, it won't work with OS9, unless you have DAVE or some other Win/Mac application that allows communication between PCs and Macs.
It's a small amount of work, but the drivers are free which I imagine is probably a lot cheaper than the JetDirect.

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