HP Elitebook 2530p RAM - Kingston HyperX low latency -- not compatible?

Hello, I would be grateful for help! I tried to install the following RAM in two different 2530p Elitebook:
Kingston HyperX --- KHX6400S2ULK2/4G --- These are two moduls, each 2Gb.
I tried it out with only one of 2Gb or both of them, but the notebooks did not boot. Both tested HP 2530p motherboards are model 30E1, version F12, Intel chipset GS45, revision 7. -- One has SL9600 processor, one has SL9400 processor. The operating system is Win XP Prof SP3 / 32-bit.
This is DDR2-6400 RAM with similar specifications to the original RAM (which works fine), but ULTRA LOW LATENCY.
>>>> QUESTION: Is there any compatibility problem known with ultra low latency RAM and HP 2530p?
>>>> OR is the problem that I am using a 32-bit operating system? And this is ONLY for 64-bit OP?
KHX6400S2ULK2/4G
4GB (2GB 256M x 64-Bit x 2 pcs.)
PC2-6400 CL4 200-Pin SODIMM Kit
Thanks a lot, I will try to help with other issues I already experienced, now we have three 2530p in my family.
Christian

After reading over the unofficial guide more carefully, i cam accross a link to kingston homepage about a related issue with the KHX3200/xxx modules: http://www.kingston.com/support/faqs/memory/intel_3.asp
This has led me to believe that the KHX3200UL/xxx modules will infact not work, as they are more vigerous than the KHX3200/xxx modules. According to the second solution of that link, i have purchased 2x KHX3200A/512 modules (same ram with slower timings) which, according to kingston, should work with i865 boards. Is anyone able to confirm this?
Thank you again

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I have a MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum board (BIOS 1.3) with AMD 64 3000+ 939 CPU.
I am trying to run this with 2 Kingston HyperX PC3200 512MB memory (KHX3200ULK2/1G). This is the latest "Ultra-low Latency" memory from Kingston.
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In the meantime...
Try loosening up the memory timings first, start with 2-2-2-8 thru 2-2-2-11
Then if no luck try 2-3-2-6 thru 10 or 11 you may even have to resort to 2.5 3-3-X
You should be able to at least find a sweeter spot.
You may even have to go to 2T and non aggressive settings.
Why would the timings work when in single channel mode, but not in dual channel, when the Crucial memory works fine in dual channel at the same timings used in single channel?
On a side note, the Kingston pair was purchased together in a matched set, while the 2 Crucial sticks (actually the memory from my system) were bought seperately over a month apart.
The timings that RZT tried are the exact ones Kingston specifies for that model, there should be NO reason whatsoever they wouldn't work at those timings, dual or single channel.
Please correct me if I am wrong...
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Why would the timings work when in single channel mode, but not in dual channel, when the Crucial memory works fine in dual channel at the same timings used in single channel?
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On a side note, the Kingston pair was purchased together in a matched set, while the 2 Crucial sticks (actually the memory from my system) were bought seperately over a month apart.
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Not wrong, maybe a little overoptimistic. Some situations warrant different measures. It's not that black and white, nor is it written in stone. At this point it only indicates there is indeed a problem, where it lies, would be better off using a dartboard to guess at this point.

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Hey everyone, so I have a NF980-G65 mobo with the kingston hyperx mem (KHX1600C8D3K2/4GX) and I'm trying to find stable clocks for the ram. Also I'm runnin an AMD Phenom II 955 @ 3.8ghz. Anyways take a look at my picture here..
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Too much voltage brother
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Hey everyone, so I have a NF980-G65 mobo with the kingston hyperx mem (KHX1600C8D3K2/4GX) and I'm trying to find stable clocks for the ram. Also I'm runnin an AMD Phenom II 955 @ 3.8ghz. Anyways take a look at my picture here..
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It should work now, and if it does, you can try setting MAT to Turbo or even Ultra Turbo, but then your timings must be set manually to 2-2-3-6 or something like that, cant remember... just play around with it a little bit.
evil ryu.
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OK here ya go. 2 different versions of logic and 2 different versions of SL. Every time you close and reopen a project. You have to check low latency again. I guess I just never noticed it in the main studio because I never needed it, Using a Mac Pro, Motu 896, Buffers set @ 512 Medium With multiple fire wire devices, Multiple midi devices, Recording 8 audio tracks at the same time. Never a problem. On the I-Mac With Apogeee duet. 1 Track with no plugins. Buffers @ 128 I need it. Go figure. Thanks for your input everyone. Bill
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put in 4400 clocked to 220x12 stable
looser timings 3.4.4.7.
benchmark drops to 5100 argh !!!!!!!
now i know 3dmark 05 is gpu not cpu intensive
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if so if i drop this to 3 when i o,c cpu im not going beyond my boards fsb of 800 stock by to much .
confused you soon will be arrrrrgh pulling my hair out
ok kingfisher gonna read it again i know i know rtfm.

Well, I'm not AMD64 user,
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