HP MSA2312sa G2 RAID Controller Replacement

I have recently noticed that 1 of 2 RAID controllers on a HP MSA2312sa G2 Modular Smart Array has failed. Everything failed over to Controller A which is still healthy so all is still up and running.
However my question is whether I can hot swap the failed RAID controller with a new one or if I have to shut the unit and all attached hosts down to do the hardware replacement.
Any help is appreciated as this is a one off device that I don't have much experience with.
Thanks
Justin
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Hi, Justin:
You may also want to post your question on the HP Business Support Forum -- SAN section.
http://h30499.www3.hp.com/t5/Storage-Area-Networks-SAN-Small/bd-p/bsc-257#.VAoGFHl0y9I

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