HPDM 4.6 vs. Thin Client Out of Network

I just finished setting up and testing a thin client at my house, connecting back to the HP Gateway/Server in the office. With enabling port forwarding, and configuring the HPDM Agent on the thin client, everything is working great, except for one thing... Any task I send to the thin client goes to "Sending" status , and then it will sit there until the thin client is rebooted manually. Once the thin client boots back to where it was, the task that was sent executes successfully. This includes Shadowing, Renaming, Changing Time/Screensave settings, etc. Can someone point me in whatever direction is necessary to change this behavior? I'm thrilled that it's working at all, except for requiring a reboot for every single task. Thanks in advance!

Hi, Could you please shorten the "pull interval" on the client side? You can change it through "Agent Configuration" UI on the clide side. Based on your description, your tested thinclient is behind NAT relative to DM gateway. In this case, every tasks send to DM gateway cannot be sent to DM agent directly. The task will wait until DM agent get it actively. Pull Interval is the parameter to trigger the "PULL" task from DM gateway, it was set to 1 day by default which means agent will pull task from Gateway for only once every day. Restart the agent is another way to trigger the "pull" action, that why your task works after reboot the client.

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